UBB.threads Forums Edged Weapons Hunting, Forestry, and Shooting Forum With a story - for the believers...

Dear collector friends, today I have a little story for you, believe it or not.
Got an ALCOSO Deutsche Jaegerschaft mini in a private buy. It did come out directly of a late hunter´s household and the story which did come with it was, that it has been a gift of Goering to the hunters at the certain event - see the engraving "Saujagd Spessart 1938" (boar hunting in the region of the Spessart 1938).
The miniature did cost only the price I see correct for those minis, not these ridiculous prices asked by dealers. So I did buy the item no the story.
Nevertheless you might believe the story too .
Regards,

BUT to make a long story short, I naturally did some research! So I stumbled over an auction of a GFM Milch (also a well known hunter) related part estate in 2018. And found a slightly devastated (one part of the crossguard broken away, the upper scabbard fitting turned raround, perhaps the lug broken) ALCOSO DJ Mini with EXACTLY the same engraved inscription and a small hunting knife with the engraved signature of Goering. So for me it is now hard to believe that the exact engraving on a devastated Miniature would be faked which would make two faked inscriptions. Especially in the connex with the estate and the Goering engraving.
What do you think?
Regards,

wotan,

I like it. Amazing find.

Wotan,, no offence as I'm not familiar with these at all.. Being more than one sometimes sets off alarms when it comes to gifts.. Unless maybe there was a bunch of guys and they all got the same one..

1938 you'd figure Goring would be giving something more elaborate! Even the engraving doesn't on the fancy side... Is the Goring signature an engraving or embossment?

As I mentioned I don't know these pieces but like to see gift items etc. So give me a good wack in the head if I'm way off base , its ok....,G.

@ Mikee, thank you for looking and your opinion!

@ Gaspare, in the late 30´s a lieutenant earned about 240RM, a worker 120(!) RM and an employee 230 RM. A comparable average hunting dagger (eg. EICKHORN Mod 36) did cost 16,5 RM. When we assume, I unfortunately don´t have an ALCOSO Mini list, that the certain ALCOSO deluxe Mini did cost ½ , therefore 8,25 RM, plus separate engraving, so around 10RM complete, you really think this was a cheap keepsake???
Yes, the second specimen which surfaced by research shows at least to me that there were more of them, assumable given to all attendees or professional hunters of this certain hunting event.
The Goering signature on the additional small hunting knife (a dedication of 1937 is on the other side I did no show) is an engraving.

Regards,

Wotan,,at that price I guess it isn't Kitch! So it was awarded to like a group thing.. [We used to have a 'Mini' section forum on the site. Those guys knew their minis etc.]

Knowing you a little,, I wouldn't doubt you find more information on it Having the item is great.. But finding and having the info on it is also the fun part...

Good looking items. I appreciate the opportunity to see them and the effort you put into research.

--dj--Joe

Very interesting items, you show here wotan.

H. W. Pauseback, a distributor of Alcoso, place an ad in DER DEUTSCHE JAGER, 10 March 1939 for "Briefoffner ca. 22 cm, wie Abbild Angebote unverbindlich Ratenzahlung".

NOTE: 22 cm= 8.66141732 inches.

C. Wetzel-20609

In my opinion these mini's are the best of there type out there, I have owned at least 10 of these over the years but never anything with a presentation, personally I like the story and it makes sense to me.

Gary

Thank you all for your contribution and opinions! The add is really interesting!!! Thank you C. Wetzel-20609 for this one. Deferred payment for a letter opener! So this item for sure was not cheap.

Baz69 told us the facts, they are not too rare, they do come by from time to time. And they are (like all socalled 1/2 Minis of ALCOSO) extremely well made.
Although they come by, the prices at dealers are extremely high, I have seen them even for 2000 USD... a price I personally never would pay for one engraved or not.

As Gaspare has written, we had a "Mini" section in our forum which is now combined with the sword forum. But I thought this certain "Mini" would fit better here in the hunting section.

Regards,