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I have never actually examined one of these but from all I have absorbed over the years it looks good. Have any changed hands lately? I have not been brave enough to ask for the price. The hangers have to be a rare find. Any thoughts?
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I haven't kept up on the prices of FHH but would think $75,000 to $110,000 hangers $15,000 to $20,000 ???? I think Tom Johnson sold one awhile ago just over $100,000 sans hangers cheers and best, Ryan
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I have never actually examined one of these but from all I have absorbed over the years it looks good. Have any changed hands lately? I have not been brave enough to ask for the price. The hangers have to be a rare find. Any thoughts? Any Pics??? Regards,
wotan, gd.c-b#105
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Did find it. From these detailed photographs it indeed looks like an original specimen. I do not like the wood and the color of the grip. Original grips have a more elegant reddishbrown color or are of reddishbrown bakelite. BUT there might have been done improper attemps of restauration which let the grip look how it looks now.
The hangers have a reversed upper clip, presumably done during (most likely period) shortening of the hangers.
As said the dagger with all it´s minute details and features looks indeed like a real one, for final judgement an in hand inspection (due to some more special features) would be necessary.
Some pics (courtesy Empires Past) included.
Regards,
wotan, gd.c-b#105
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Here is how an untouched woodengrip of an FHH dagger looks like.
Regards,
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wotan, gd.c-b#105
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Thanks, Wotan.
We don't see many of those.
Dave
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Dave, it´s my pleasure!
I forgot to write that I think you cannot value the hangers separately. Most of the few FHH daggers I could see over the years did come without hangers, only some were accompanied by their hangers. I have seen only ONE hanger (which did not meet the common color schema of doubtless original hangers) alone which was later added to the well known McCarthy FHH dagger.
Generally, although few have been produced (the highest number, they are internal marked, is some digits below 60) there have been years when two or three originals(!) at the same time had been offered for sale. But when the russians had the possibility and started to attend shows they all quickly disappeared and, as far as I could watch, did not come back...
Therefore FHH daggers are now even more rare (and expensive) in the western hemisphere. At the times when there were some offeres the price of a set was 30.000 to 50.000USD.
Due to my researches there might be 10-15 original FHH daggers (only "duty" daggers - which it IS, not counted any "honor model") still in existance. In this number there ae also three included which were in private collections and never have been offered on the market.
Regards,
wotan, gd.c-b#105
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Wotan, thank you for showing me the beautiful dagger. Could you tell me what internal number your sample has?
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Wotan, thank you for showing me the beautiful dagger. Could you tell me what internal number your sample has? Hallo den70 I am glad you like my FHH dagger. Please understand that I don´t give away such datas. Regards,
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Wotan, no problem. I just wanted to add this number to the database. But I understand and respect your opinion. Each owner decides for himself what information he is willing to share. In any case, an excellent dagger with a wonderful hanger.
Best regards Den.
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Wotan, many thanks for your valuable input and sharing pictures of your wonderful dagger, i can only dream of owning such a piece.
Regards Sean
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wotan,
WOAH! Never get tired of seeing it! You are the man!
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Dave, it´s my pleasure!
I forgot to write that I think you cannot value the hangers separately. Most of the few FHH daggers I could see over the years did come without hangers, only some were accompanied by their hangers. I have seen only ONE hanger (which did not meet the common color schema of doubtless original hangers) alone which was later added to the well known McCarthy FHH dagger.
Generally, although few have been produced (the highest number, they are internal marked, is some digits below 60) there have been years when two or three originals(!) at the same time had been offered for sale. But when the russians had the possibility and started to attend shows they all quickly disappeared and, as far as I could watch, did not come back...
Therefore FHH daggers are now even more rare (and expensive) in the western hemisphere. At the times when there were some offeres the price of a set was 30.000 to 50.000USD.
Due to my researches there might be 10-15 original FHH daggers (only "duty" daggers - which it IS, not counted any "honor model") still in existance. In this number there ae also three included which were in private collections and never have been offered on the market.
Regards, Hello Wotan, Yes I remember those times, when surprisingly, several FHH daggers popped up for sale at the same time, it must have been in the years 2005 to 2010. A couple FHH daggers also made it to western Europe at the time, but it is possible that they no longer reside in the same collections now... Very smart of you to keep yours all these years, it is a magnificent piece! Best regards, Herman
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Wotan, no problem. I just wanted to add this number to the database. But I understand and respect your opinion. Each owner decides for himself what information he is willing to share. In any case, an excellent dagger with a wonderful hanger.
Best regards Den. @ den70, thank you very much for your understanding. Funnily I have my own database of FHH daggers known by me and as said there are some in it which never did come to the collector´s market. @Herman V. (aka Herr Mann), I think the times of several FHH daggers on the market has been earlier, perhaps 1990-2000 but did not research it. At least now they do come VERY seldom on the market, about 3-4 yars ago I saw an original at Weitze at a show but nothing more. Even if it is rare, the prices I saw or have been told are imho ridiculous. Thank you to all members which did show interest in this thread and the daggers. Regards,
wotan, gd.c-b#105
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