UBB.threads Forums Edged Weapons Army, Navy, and Luftwaffe Forum Brown 1st Luft dagger

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Book"

Yes there is a Red 1st.

3rd Drawer

Is`nt that a ultra rare "cammo" paratroopers dagger?

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I`m shure the dagger was blue before.
I had senn this an several daggers in bad condition.
I`t seems that there is a chemical process
who fades out the blue color 100% also under
covered parts.
IT�s observed by me from bad conditioned daggers, if anyone can show this color by an good conditioned piece, please show it here and i will agree "What a scarce special shooting price!"

regards
Medes

Medes could be right! I have seen this bleach out of the leather on daggers which have been stored on a hot and sometimes dump but otherwise very dry place like an attik. This environment might cause such a chemical process.
I have observed this certain brown not only on 1st lufts but also eg. on custom daggers. I for myself do not believe that all of these daggers were originally produced in a brown variant.
Regards,

So I guess that until all we have is faint recollection of one dagger that was a vet purchased walk in 24 years ago and a grainy enhanced poor quality pic from an old and obscure reference book the consensus of opinion will remain that leather, which is for the most part originally browny in colour, on some first pattern Luft daggers can age and fade to brown for a myriad of reasons..

Bob, it sounds by your comments above you still own one of these daggers or the one Tom Johnson sold. Any chance of seeing some photos? Doug.

Actually I have better than a faint recollection of seeing the maroon 1st Model Luft. Unfortuantely, I didn't get any photos of it or find out who bought it. I do remember the leather being in very good shape, not like the one which was shown at the beginning of this thread.

Best excample for fading is the one that simply daggers is showing.
This piece starts to get the brown color from
dark blue.
I think this one will become brown in a few years.

regards
Medes

Sellick,
The photo from True Magazine is certainly not offered as proof of originally, but rather an example of what such a dagger may have looked like as seen in magazines after the war. Most collectors that I have known over the years enjoy seeing what was published in early post war magazines, good or bad it adds to their knowledge base. The article reports on daggers that were in the collection of Norman Heilman