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i'm sure I can see casting bubbles on the back of the face
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i'm sure I can see casting bubbles on the back of the face Please explain this to us, on which ring and what is your opinion after realizing. Thanks
�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder aus ihren Augen blitzen."
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Again a thread that's growing to a monster. Boys, let's go back to the stuff-the topic starting ring. Maybe still some other guys with an opinion about here.
This second ring. The Westwall one. Can't remember that someone called it good. The pics this time in the Westwall thread were rather small. If it comes from the same source as the Luft ring i would be meanwhile sceptical and would suggest you, only if you are interested, a closer comparison with for sure period ones in a separate thread. So, if you are interested feel free to Start this thread with some clear large pics of the details. Thanks
Hi Odal, this 'West Wall' ring from another source.This is a 100% WW2 period ring. Many thanks but I do not discussion from him.
Here's another shot at this ring. Enjoy.
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Hi Odal,
here is another similar type of production.Silver Plated Brass. Very beautiful WW2 period ring.
This ring also makes you doubt?
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Please Sergey no machinegun-fire in this thread. There are people that spend only free time here, have to work long hours and sleep sometimes. As told, please ring for ring and thread for thread. Stay in this thread by the roots and this starting ring. And if we all came to an result we talk about the next on the first look fine looking ring. Think this is the best way to work without any confusion (at least for older guys like me). Thanks! And....i am real wondering there are no other guys here that stand to their own opinion. Back to your Luft ring. You would agree yours and the ring i showed are different?
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�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder aus ihren Augen blitzen."
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For some reason Sergey none of your pictures stay loaded for me more than a split second; then disappear..; I can't qualify any opinion as I can't see the pictures, might be my device I don't know.
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For some reason Sergey none of your pictures stay loaded for me more than a split second; then disappear..; I can't qualify any opinion as I can't see the pictures, might be my device I don't know. Hi Mike, I'm sorry, but I do not know the reason for this. Please Sergey no machinegun-fire in this thread. There are people that spend only free time here, have to work long hours and sleep sometimes. As told, please ring for ring and thread for thread. Stay in this thread by the roots and this starting ring. And if we all came to an result we talk about the next on the first look fine looking ring. Think this is the best way to work without any condition (at least for older guys like me). Thanks! And....i am real wondering there are no other guys here that stand to their own 1opinion. Back to your Luft ring. You would agree yours and the ring i showed are different? Please Sergey no machinegun-fire in this thread. There are people that spend only free time here, have to work long hours and sleep sometimes. As told, please ring for ring and thread for thread. Stay in this thread by the roots and this starting ring. And if we all came to an result we talk about the next on the first look fine looking ring. Think this is the best way to work without any condition (at least for older guys like me). Thanks! And....i am real wondering there are no other guys here that stand to their own 1opinion. Back to your Luft ring. You would agree yours and the ring i showed are different?
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Please Sergey no machinegun-fire in this thread. There are people that spend only free time here, have to work long hours and sleep sometimes. As told, please ring for ring and thread for thread. Stay in this thread by the roots and this starting ring. And if we all came to an result we talk about the next on the first look fine looking ring. Think this is the best way to work without any condition (at least for older guys like me). Thanks! And....i am real wondering there are no other guys here that stand to their own 1opinion. Back to your Luft ring. You would agree yours and the ring i showed are different? Yes, Odal, I see that your ring is different from mine.But I already said that it could be different manufacturers and, accordingly, different die. Please, let's finish the discussion. I'm tired. Thank you very much for your opinions. The only thing that I realized that some rings must be held in their hands to determine their authenticity. But unfortunately the Internet can not yet transfer items from hand to hand :-) Thanks again to all Sergey
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Please Sergey no machinegun-fire in this thread. There are people that spend only free time here, have to work long hours and sleep sometimes. As told, please ring for ring and thread for thread. Stay in this thread by the roots and this starting ring. And if we all came to an result we talk about the next on the first look fine looking ring. Think this is the best way to work without any condition (at least for older guys like me). Thanks! And....i am real wondering there are no other guys here that stand to their own 1opinion. Back to your Luft ring. You would agree yours and the ring i showed are different? Yes, Odal, I see that your ring is different from mine.But I already said that it could be different manufacturers and, accordingly, different die. Please, let's finish the discussion. I'm tired. Thank you very much for your opinions. The only thing that I realized that some rings must be held in their hands to determine their authenticity. But unfortunately the Internet can not yet transfer items from hand to hand :-) Thanks again to all Sergey Agree....sure we talk again in other discussion
�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder aus ihren Augen blitzen."
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hi mike you see the above posts by sergey and the outher poplop here we go again i am getting discusted but will not run from them nor thier garbage they are trying to have us say its period rings where they get them is beyond me well again they are not period rings both myself and odel told them they are not period rings but apparently our opinions fell on deaf ears these garbage rings that these two guys are putting up here and when odel and me tell sergey in a nice way that his luft ring is not period he pushes the button and puts up another fake copy ring to try to onfuse us well he aint confuseing me thats for sure he can put up one hundred fake rings and i will all ways call a spade a spade enough is enough time for you gaspare and dave to do somthing with this kind of behaveure before there is no more gdc ring forum enough is enough hope you big guys can help this cituation before its to late if any of the above guys want me to stop giving my honest opinions here then shalom i will go in peace thank you god bless andy militarynut
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military nut will you please show me where I have discussed you, if you read want I have commented on you will see that there is no reference to you, also I have made no attempt to show a bad ring, my user name is POLOP. read before you write.
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It is time to close this topic i think. Stay calm and friendly friends!
�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder aus ihren Augen blitzen."
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Open again for objective dicussions.
�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder aus ihren Augen blitzen."
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- Good work Odal! Now I know some members have examples of this pattern. Please try and post photos - Nice straight cartouche,,behind it, birds eye,,I think those 3 shots might do it. Please anyone add whatever you'd think will do it..
I can't promise but I'll try and get to mine and post photos..
ALL the significant details will be same..
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I still have an other of this pattern in silver. Hard worn but exact same plate design in details as the brass one i showed. But i think it is better other guys Show their rings.
�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder aus ihren Augen blitzen."
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ok, sorry not the best shots in the world but,,
stamped 835, Very good inner band polish. Seam to rear,,a bit dirty but I really don't clean mine unless I really see a problem. , I feel at one time it had a gold tone to certain parts of it,,[maybe not and just patina]
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, this is the birds eye view.. Very even band.
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, last , , cartouche [front].
Please, someone else has this pattern. just a couple quick shots if you can.. Odal go ahead and post yours,maybe from different angle etc.
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,, oops, forgot,,,inside, behind..
Come on guys,,post a couple quick shots..
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Very nice ring, I have no luft rings myself but these here would be wonderful pieces for any ring collection! Any other members have ones like these?
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Here we go. A hard worn silver example, Although such much wearing you see the differences to the topic starting ring. Don`t want to show close ups of the back but it is also differnt to the first ring in thread. Backside is rather soft because of using a soft and rather thick liner while strucking this rings. G., please correct me if i am wrong.
�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder aus ihren Augen blitzen."
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Hi guys,
here is a ring excavated from the earth. In my opinion they are identical.
Best regards, Sergey
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Indeed. Looks like your ring. Maybe from the same source.
�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder aus ihren Augen blitzen."
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Indeed. Looks like your ring. Maybe from the same source. Odal, can not you see that this ring is from the earth???)
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For me it doesn't look so on this pic.
�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder aus ihren Augen blitzen."
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I can only see your images Sergey for about .5 seconds before it disappears... is anyone else having this problem?! Anyhow, even in that split second - i saw a difference .... so I reloaded the page, and quick as I could- snapped a picture- here's the screenshot. It looks quite different - look at the 2 Eagles.
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I can only see your images Sergey for about .5 seconds before it disappears... is anyone else having this problem?! Anyhow, even in that split second - i saw a difference .... so I reloaded the page, and quick as I could- snapped a picture- here's the screenshot. It looks quite different - look at the 2 Eagles. I see that they are identical, just photographed at different angles. Odal also noticed that they were identical. Why you do not see it, I do not know. On the ring that was dug from the ground, traces of corrosion are visible. Well, what else can I say. Look closely. Best regards, Sergey
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�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder aus ihren Augen blitzen."
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Ah. Ok I see Sergey- that is why the two appeared different from each other. However, I am seeing some real differences in the post by odal. There is something above the Eagles head/ shoulders that looks like a couple balls. It would appear they are casting balls. Just my opinion.
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Ah. Ok I see Sergey- that is why the two appeared different from each other. However, I am seeing some real differences in the post by odal. There is something above the Eagles head/ shoulders that looks like a couple balls. It would appear they are casting balls. Just my opinion. Acorns!
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Of course I considered whether or not they could be acorns. They probably were supposed to be when he mold was made, now they look much more like....well, let's just stick with balls of some sort....
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For sure is that the last 3 rings in the row are absolutly identical from the pattern. The 2 first rings are without any doubts different. That`s fact.
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�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder aus ihren Augen blitzen."
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Here is another example of two Identical patterns rings. One excavated from the ground is another in good condition.
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luft ring in the middle looks different
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Mikes's right. And I notice that odd "acorn/balls" set on 5 of the rings in that picture. If any other member has any other/similar rings -please post! I don't have any myself, but I know how good postwar copies are.. guys- remember last max- gaspare and I found one being sold as good that was a very good fake (the stamps were a giveaway!) The next day of max- another member here unfortunately ended up purchasing it!! Be CAREFUL out there! Mike- you coming to max??
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unfortunately I cannot make it, I live in the uk. would love to come, I have a ring that I want to show gaspere,so if anybody from the uk is going please pm me and perhaps they could take it to the show.
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UK guys..! That's about the easiest request ever- taking a ring! Hope someone's up for doing a good turn for the hobby!!
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luft ring in the middle looks different The one in the middle of Olegs rings of this pattern is exact fitting to last 3 ones i showed in the row. And sorry, we are in a discussion about the starting ring an not to talk about Olegs rings with such bands.
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�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder aus ihren Augen blitzen."
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Interesting would be to know from where all these rings come/where are they found. I can only speak for my 2. They come from Germany and this is the exact pattern of this type of rings that was for sure period produced here.
�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder aus ihren Augen blitzen."
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