So, you two are incapable of starting a thread on your own about your views?

Red12, Your statement was not only historically flawed but clearly made to inflame other members. A violation of the forum rules.

Skynard, If you have some issue with the way people view the hobby, start a thread, don't disrupt mine.

Actually, you two should start a thread with both of you stating your opposite views. If you can do this without violating any forum rules. Congratulations.

But quit crying because I would not let you fight it out on my dime.