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Wow! Much thanks! The former silver finish you can still see on my ring. Different year on the plate - the year of foundation of this unit. And, of course, a different inscription inside. But for sure the same ring pattern. Maybe the inscription in my ring means the IR 488 or EB 488 - both foundet in 1939 and at germanys west border.
Thanks again - a very cool ring!
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�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder aus ihren Augen blitzen."
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for a little more movement here:
A ring i got today with his brother
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�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder aus ihren Augen blitzen."
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- lucky man Odal! Thats a pretty rare pattern WW ring!
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Yes Asis (Andris ), we have seen your website long ago. Your rings look real well done, but your style is unique. I am real curious on you next fake
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�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder aus ihren Augen blitzen."
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Here a rather famous pattern we still haven`t here. Brass with rests of silver plating, pretty worn, but i think a still nice one:
�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder aus ihren Augen blitzen."
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Looks like a nice well worn BigHead WW ring!
A good well known pattern. Seeing less and less of them.
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Thanks G.! The advert is cool.
Here a new one that i got today from an auction. It wasn`t expensive and i like it real. A rather worn one in brass of a meanwhile not so often seen pattern. I still have one of this pattern made of zinc. Here a not so good quick shot:
�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder aus ihren Augen blitzen."
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,, hey yeah a nice one! Maybe a side by side with your Zinc example...
Usually [ supposedly?] late war they went to Zinc, especially when the dies got worn,,brass needed for the war front etc.. Maybe we can spot out some differences in depth and detail!
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Real no good pics - but here the "side by side":
�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder aus ihren Augen blitzen."
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Hi! Similar to the LVZ-West ring i got some months ago now i baught in an auction rather expensive a Westwall ring with a 8.8 Flak. Ring is two piece and plated. Seperate plate is afixed with a rivet. I think a very rare one and worth every cent. Enjoy!
�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder aus ihren Augen blitzen."
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I think so too buddy! After years of collecting finding new patterns becomes very hard and sometimes you gotta pay! A great catch!
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Thanks G.. Here still a sidebyside-shot of the two rings:
�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder aus ihren Augen blitzen."
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I'd go out on a limb here and say probably same maker.. Even the background of the cartouche has the same horizontal lines on them... Great addition to your collection!
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well, in a box I haven't seen in a while,,,here we go!!!
This just goes to show that waste not want not.. They were going to use old staock no matter what.. Simply make a new cartouche as a device and affix on your old bands that aren't moving!
Odals fitted in ,,,mine crimped on/over.....
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Wow G.! Very interesting! Indeed exact the same cartouche on an other/older bandstyle. Affixed in a different way. Enterprising(?) guys in that time! Thanks or sharing that with us. For sure a fine and very rare ring you have there.
�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder aus ihren Augen blitzen."
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And today came in the next in this row! Again brass, two piece and plated. Plate hold again with a covered rivet and this horizontal lines on the plate are here again too. Here some quick pics-
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�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder aus ihren Augen blitzen."
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Not a ring, but i think a nice Westwall pic. Made by grandpa 1939
�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder aus ihren Augen blitzen."
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These metal parts you don't see often on pictures about the Westwall.
Nice pic. Odal! Specially too because it's made by your granddad.
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odal,
That's a nice picture! Thanks for showing it.
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�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder aus ihren Augen blitzen."
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A new come in of a well known pattern. Nearly mint condition. Enjoy:
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�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder aus ihren Augen blitzen."
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Odal, this is a very nice ring. You certainly are the ring hunter!! My compliments Benten
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Thanks Benten!
�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder aus ihren Augen blitzen."
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Hi all!!! It is my the ring west wall.
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An known rare pattern. Congrats!
�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder aus ihren Augen blitzen."
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Nice rare ring, I've never seen before !
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A nice new come-in in my collection. WW-wire-ring, nearly mint - with manufacturers paper patch:
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�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder aus ihren Augen blitzen."
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odal,
A great find! I don't recall ever seeing one with a tag. Do you? Thanks
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I have seen one years ago, but i didn`t get it But now i got this one
�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder aus ihren Augen blitzen."
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You are so lucky! Thank you for always sharing your finds with us.
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Odal, I agree with Mikee. Very rare.
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Hi all!!! It is my the ring west wall. Klaus Butschek has this one in nice condition for 175�.
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My yesterdays score dated 10.5.1940
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good known WW pattern... They came with a silver wash but it must have come off very quickly,,don't think I've ever seen a mint example [wash 100%] of this pattern .. This is in very good condition and a hard pattern to find,,good catch!!
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Yes, very nice and rather rare one! Congrats!
�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder aus ihren Augen blitzen."
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It's in very nice condition.
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and my little contribution ))) I'm not sure that is 100% westwall topic, likely europe or poland time company ... But here we dont have spetial topic and I put it here ))) By the way: ring has no traditional cover (chrome or silvered), ring has gold or somethig like it (yellow color)cover I see it type of cover first time.
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Some weeks ago i saw exct this pattern in a auction. took a low bid and missed it. For me a ring i liked at once. I think ist a german one similar to these Luft eagle rings. Congrats!
�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder aus ihren Augen blitzen."
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