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Gentlemen
Here are 3 Heer daggers: Luneschloss, Clemen & Jung & Klass. I'm an Eidkhorn man and know very little about other manufacturers but there are big red flags with all of these IMO. What do the experts think?
Luneschloss.................................Clemen & Jung.......................................Klass
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the Luneschloss. Cross guard???
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the Clemen & Jung. The blade looks all off centre to me ..... And that cross guard??
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the Klass. Stamped mm and not straight??
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Pommels are strange on two if not all of them I would pass
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I certainly don't like the crossguards on the clemen&jung and the Klaas dagger. Two of the three pommels really look strange. Maker marks off centre. Too many red flags I'd say. Regards, Dan
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The Jung crossguard certainly looks strange the Klaas guard is Ok and a rare type not sure why the pommels look crooked on the luneschloss and Klaas
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The Clemen & Jung dagger is terrible. IMO the crossguard, the grip and the ferrule are poor reproductions. And I agree with Jim and dr: the pommels look very strange... but probably it's just the photo.
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Agree with Janos on the Clemen & Jung. Bad crossguard, grip and ferrule.
The curvature of the crossguard looks wrong for the usual KLAAS type, but it does resemble the unknown example at the end of Degens references.
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The only Clemen & Jung TM that I have seen on Heers or Lufts is the 2 part mark with the crown on one side and the Z on the other.
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Gentlemen Thank you all so much for your comments. All the best James
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Hi,
this daggers are very nice, what's the price of one on the national market?
Cheers
�kenr�ven
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Hi �kenr�ven
We decided that there were big question marks about all three so I didn't buy any of them. You should be able to buy a really nice Heer dagger for anything between US$400 and US$600 (perhaps a bit more depending on the maker) I would have thought. Not one of these though.
best
James
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