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Hello Keen SS collectors. Is there any of you having clear pics of this type of dagger ? RZM/1203/38 SS Im interested to study the makers mark and blade etch. If you have such dagger , please post some pics of it or contact me on PM. Regards LH This was my 1111 posting on this forum too.
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Hi LH,
a few weeks ago, i have sent you an pic,
with the x keys on the tang
Gerd
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Hi Gerd
Thanks for reply. Can you send me the pics again ?
I have checked my mailbox. Nothing from you. Maybee some error.
Regards LH
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email with one pic sent!
Gerd
BTW:i guess it's up to your email Do you have another mail?
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Many thanks Gerd for that blade picture. It looks fine in my eyes.
Regards LH
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Why are there so few of this type of SS out there ? not many seen. And if someone have copied them,. where are they ? The makers mark is also here in references . http://www.germandaggers.com/Gallery/SSRZM.htm
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Here is a makers mark SS Rzm 7/49 1203-38SS
Opinions of it ?
The MM is quite the same as in the GDC reference here on the forum.
Sorry for the poor quality, i wait for more clear pics of it. LH
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email with one pic sent!
Gerd
BTW:i guess it's up to your email Do you have another mail? Hi Gerd. Can you put out your image picture of the 1203/38 SS makers mark ? in this tread ? Rgeards LH
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Photo posted for Gerd
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Thanks Vern
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Glad to help
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Yes Vern, you are very fast and helpful. I working with a SS dagger with provience If the deal come true...pics will be hosted. Here is a small "Sneak" peak
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Hi LH, looks not bad,at the first sight Gerd
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Hi Gerd. Many thanks. The dagger is a honest warrior with a spesial background ' here is last "Sneak" Peak for the community. A lot of oil on the blade. And a close image of the Grip Eagle What do you think Gerd ? Do you have pics of your grip & eagle ? Regards LH
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Sorry LH, but i have only one pic of this TM in my database. Gerd yours looks good so far,but we'll wait for the entire dagger
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Oki Gerd. I have to get a handinspection first before i buy it. It will lands next week or soo Then if i buy it,- i will host up some pics of it That maker Rzm 1203/38 RZM 7/49 is pretty hard to find out there & i have seen few of this maker ? All opinions welcomed from other SS collectors ? Regards LH
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Its pretty funny ... one of the worlds best forum ever on daggers and No one have a input or pics of a Rzm SS 1203/38 for show ? ( Thanks Gerd` for that blade picture) If you have one , i would like to see it LH
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Well Folks. This rare SS dagger landed today. The dagger have 100% provience to a Norgegian SS Frontkjemper/ Frontfighter. He went out too Karelen and never came back. He Died there sorry. I have the name and full history. But i dont share that info. The famliy take care of the SS dagger , & now its in my collection. More pics will come folks Regards LH
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Here more pics same dagger SS 1203. LH
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More pics of The rare dagger.
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Last one for the momento I hope you enjoy it as i do LH
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I have to say thanks too Vern here on GDC for all the help & info last days. Also a big thanks to Paul Hogle at the Lakesidetrader and Ralf Siegert the author of the New SS book. I hope you enjoy the picsures of this rare SS dagger not often seen.Regards LH 600
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LH:
That is one heck of a nice dagger, rare as hen's teeth and with a great provenance to boot.
When you see something this nice and with this much character, you wonder why some of us do not like RZM marked pieces. What is there here not to like?
Congratulations, my friend,
John
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nice one !!! Congrats..... And if you have the history behind it, makes it even more sweet!!!
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Here is 2 Norwegians . One of them with M 36 Chain dagger.
The person is : Thorvald Throndsen and Leif Schj�ren. From an artikkel in the "Germaneren"
The top management of all Germanic SS departments around the occupied countries was conducted from SS headquarters in Germany. Local Germanic SS Norway was first led by SS-Obersturmf�hrer Beyermann and as staff director of SS Hauptsturmf�hrer Olaf T. Lindvig from August 1942 to April 1943. From 1943 to February 1945 did Leif Myklebust Schj�ren (1901-1968) as staff director. Jonas Lie was the end of the war head of the department, in addition to his duties in the government as police minister.
SS supported and controlled the organization by Germanischer Exploration Counting in Oslo, which was responsible for the "Germanic work of Norway.
Editor of the organization's newspaper Germantown was the first coach Egil Holst Torkildsen.
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Well.........the SS Rzm 1317-40 have get a "Buddy" SS 1203/38 far right LH
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SS RZM 1053/38 Far left. SS RZM 1317-40 SS Middle /pictured in Ralf`s new book of SS SS RZM 7/49 1203/38 Right LH
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Excellent Dagger!
congratulation on this beauty,my friend!
Gerd
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Thanks Gerd. Im very happy to find that maker . They are very rare Regards LH
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LH600 Great period in wear photo of the M36,, Congrats on your new SS dagger. Best Larry
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Hi Larry Thank you very much I say to my self many years ago......only early SS daggers A short brief of history around the 1203/38 Dagger as pictured. He was a Norwegian front fighter who were in the SS-skijegerbataljonen, and fell for Starlin Red Army when they were stationed in Karelia
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New info. The Owner of the SS dagger 1203/38 was also in a spesial group in der SS called : SS-R�ntgensturmbann. Missing and never found on the Eastfront. SS-R�ntgensturmbann, a unit which originally was set up as a medical service unit for the Waffen SS, consisted of approximately 100 soldiers in 1944. Apparently 20 of these were Norwegian. The unit was set in to put down tre uprising in Warsaw in 1944. People do not talk so much about these guys in the SS group R�ntgensturmbann, there are dark secrets and frontline soldiers never spoken about. It is known 12 slain and missing frontline soldiers in the SS R�ntgensturmbann, who is Norwegian. Source : These are excerpts from the good book to Eirik Veum & Geir Brenden. The book is called: THOSE WHO FELL. My story stop here now. I will have the name of the owner of this SS dagger Rzm 7/49 1203 SS Witheld.Many thanks for all replys and help. And Vern Thanks for fast mail replys and help. Regards LH
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Hi LH!
This is totally amazing, truly epic to read up on this, and, I wouldnt know ANYONE that deserves such a rare thing more then you, this with the most apreciating owner EVER!! .. again many congrats! This is so very great! And thanks much for sharing ..
Cheers, KR
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My pleasure! A beautiful and rare example with an unusual background.
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Hi LH!
This is totally amazing, truly epic to read up on this, and, I wouldnt know ANYONE that deserves such a rare thing more then you, this with the most apreciating owner EVER!! .. again many congrats! This is so very great! And thanks much for sharing ..
Cheers, KR Thank you for kind words KR & Vern Its a pleasure to get hands of this Spesial SS dagger with "Dark heavy" Background . I speak with the family having this dagger on phone today , and i have now confirm all the informations of the owner. I have pics of him too. Cant` be better.There is also a very big possibility that the owner of the SS dagger has been in the Oscar Dirlewangers SS Sonderbatallion I also got mail from one of the well known dealers in the USa last week. Here it is : Here is some of the E mail. I have made note of your recent SS dagger acquisition having the code, RZM M 7/49 1203/38 SS. I have not seen this code in the past. The dagger appears to be in very nice condition.
It is interesting that these never-before-seen SS codes still keep turning up. It almost seems that the makers involved may have produced a dagger-run of only a dozen or so daggers - hardly worth the effort. But, the Germans are not the kind of people that would turn down work for a business.
I appreciate the pictures and congratulate you picking up this ultra-rare SS Model 1933. Please keep me informed of anything in the future.
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Extremely interesting piece. If it weren't you who posted this dagger (and it wouldn't look sooo great), I'd be bit sceptical about the motto - totally unknown pattern, the letter "M" is so atypical. Anyway it seems your bird is much rarer than for example early Ed Gembruch.
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