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and the last one,, the vertical hanger strap seem to have been cut down, does this say anything about the owner? maybe pedantic?
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Nice score mate, very nice indeed !!!!!! Congrats, H�kan
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tack ska du ha thank you mate
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and the last one,, the vertical hanger strap seem to have been cut down, does this say anything about the owner? maybe pedantic? Hmm, I had to look that one up pe�dan�tic Show Spelled[puh-dan-tik] �adjective 1. ostentatious in one's learning. 2. overly concerned with minute details or formalisms, esp. in teaching.
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Congrats on your fantastic find. I just looked under the steps in my house and no such luck!
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Im curious,,I have seen other 121/34 daggers with no roman numeral stamping,, and this one also,, why is that? The 120/34 daggers have the Roman numeral,, and the are relatively close together in the production year. Just a thought. ..Larry
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Larry i have seen the 121/34 with roman I , in most cases they are without the district marking, interesting point, they are in fact produced the same year 1934 . First of all we have to find out when did they stop to district mark the early dagger?
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Larry i have seen the 121/34 with roman I , in most cases they are without the district marking, interesting point, they are in fact produced the same year 1934 . First of all we have to find out when did they stop to district mark the early dagger? That's a pretty good question. BTW:A nice find! Gerd
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Zoza, I'd like to congratulate you this fantastic find. I know the feeling of getting something hidden for last 70 years. I posessed once a little Beretta Mod.34 with holster that was found during the roof renovation by my neighbour. I handled only 2 121's and both didn't have roman numeral stamp. Nice to see your new dagger has a good company
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Thanks 777..
The feeling of finding a untouched dagger that never seen daylight since the war, is just fantastic.. :-)
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I really like the 120's and 121's! Speaking of painting, my 121 has a poorly repainted scabbard I would like to have someone work on this for me as in taking off the paint and taking a look at anodizing underneath and maybe a repaint, ideas?
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Nice to see your new dagger has a good company 777 You have got an eye !!!
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Zoza, I cant help but to comment again on your great find and after viewing your photos again, you have achieved what most collectors can only dream of or wish for when finding a dagger in untouched quality as the one you now own. I consider it the "Untouched of the Untouched" Although it is not in mint condition,,which alot of collectors would desire to find,, it is the Untouched Virgin IMO that is truly desirable. Totally unmessed with!! There is but a babys breath of a runner mark almost invisible,,if you were not looking for it. 121/34 is a common SS dagger,,but a very rare dagger in which the state of condition it was found in!! I still shake my head in disbelief,, that there is "Woodwork" still out there with Hidden treasures. Dont let go of this one! Cheers to you and a great find. Larry
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VERY nice unmessed with dagger. IMO VERY rare in todays market as most dagges have been cleaned up, or taken apart at some point in time. PLEASE do not clean it as it screms of history in its present state. If you look at all the major shows and dealer sights you will see only about 5%-10% of the exmaples have not been cleaned up. Normally cleaning the patina off any antique is a sin! I never understood why German dagger collectors feel the need to tinker and buff these!
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Larry, Thank you very very much for your comment, I will be keeping this one that is a promise :-)
E Rader: you are absolutely right, It screams history, Dont worry i will not clean the patina of the dagger,neither will i open it to check the markings on the crossguards,it stays as found:-) There is one thing that bothers me ,,the scabbard,, it screams to take of that rust, so i found my self in a situation where i dont know what to do??? to clean of that surface rust or leave it as it is... any ideas?
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IMO I would do something about the surface rust and there are some guys out here that know exactly what to do in removing it and not corrupting whats beneath. Surface rust IMO could possibly take a turn and go into your scabbard. I know all these years it has been sitting on top but I myself would not like to find out if one day it gets worse and i regret it. I dont see anything wrong with removing rust. But only if its possible. Normally cleaning the patina off any antique is a sin! I never understood why German dagger collectors feel the need to tinker and buff these! E Rader is right,, This is true in removing patina which shows its true age,, but surface rust is just like early signs of skin cancer from overexposure from the beach. I myself would not wait as far as the scabbard is concerned. Im sure you would like to see a return of the black anodizing on your scabbard, and leave everything else alone!! Also in its present condition it does tell a story where it has been all these years,,but the surface rust?? I would be willing to remove it with the guidance of others out here who have successfully done it. I have seen the beautiful outcome when done correctly and with the use of the right oils,, the return of its original luster. Larry
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Also in its present condition it does tell a story where it has been all these years,,but the surface rust?? I would be willing to remove it with the guidance of others out here who have successfully done it. I have seen the beautiful outcome when done correctly and with the use of the right oils,, the return of its original luster. Larry[/quote]
anybody.. a tip what to use?
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Common guys, 18 days has gone , no advice? Should i leave it as found?
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This rust will be very hard to remove without affecting the remains of original factory finish. Spraying "Ballistol" over it and wiping with cotton cloth will not do any harm, I would do this if it was my dagger. Try to ask at Restoration, Conservation, and Maintenance Forum.
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With this amount of rust, you cannot remove the rust and expect to have a finish underneath, as it is gone already! Only apply something to the rust to inactivate/stop further rusting.
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Patina is always best to leave but rust only ever gets worse, yes you can slow the decay down alot. With a scabbard that has this much surface & maybe deeper rust I could only say to strip it down then VAPOUR blast the rust off inside & out,there might be a way to do less damage,then recoat it. Oviously it will look done up but it will not get any worse.
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Great! Guys thanks for all your opinions. the rust is not deep at all, just on the surface, i will just apply something so it will not get worse. and keep it as it is. An untouched is always in my opinion more desirable. Cheers.
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Just spray the scabbard with WD40, leave for 20 minutes and dry with a clean cloth.
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