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Hi All: In case you still haven't spent that economic stimulus check, I noticed this "Full R�hm" Eickhorn for sale on the Regimentals website. It is numbered 54 361 which was Sturmbannf�hrer Horst Sch�rer. He turns up in the 1938 Dienstaltersliste with Leibstandarte SS Adolf Hitler and 12 Panzer Div. Hitler Jugend in 1944. Yet another naughty Nazi connected to LSSAH that didn't follow directions! I haven't been able to check yet to see how much info there is about him in the Archives. Here is the link (it is item 10099): http://www.adfmilitaria.com/shop/shop.phpEnjoy! Ross Kelbaugh www.ssdaggers.com
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Not Regimentals. Different Dealer. At $18k too much for condition. Seiler (Yank in UK)
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Quite so Seiler which is typical of most U.K. dealers. Why I have only ever bought one dagger from a U.K. dealer. There is only one I would recommend without reservation.
War is when your government tells you who the enemy is. Revolution is when you figure it out for yourself.
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you say at $18k is to much try to find another one you wont this is a very rare and real dagger just wish it was mine
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I have examined this one "in hand". For me it is too much money. for the overall condition. Somebody else can spend their huge US Govt check on it Not me.And I know Andy... Perhaps you??? Seiler (Yank in UK)
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If Seiler examined it and says it's "too much money" then it's "too much" for probably 99% of us. And it sounds like I don't want to know "Andy" either. ... But I do miss out on a lot of "sleepers". -serge-
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hi seiler yes i have had the dagger in my hand as well and also know andy and i can say he is a very honest dealer his prices might be a bit high but you can always strike a good deal with him.
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Hi, I was casting no bad thoughts on Andy.He is an OK guy and knows his stuff and is well connected with several US "names".I recall he thought the Rohm was possibly "Sold",,maybe..to US?? Any way for what it is condition wise,not for me.BUT I am a fusspot!!! Seiler (Yank in UK)
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PS, Fred Stephens and a couple of his collector friends had a look also at the same time. Checking the etch/inscription more than anything else.We were all in agreement on originality.No question.But a bit " tired " for the price compared with some in the past year or so elsewhere. Cheers.
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Hi All: I finally got the chance to look into Sturmbannf�hrer Horst Sch�rer, SS No. 54 361 at the Archives. He has an SS Officer File and a Race & Settlement File. The latter included two of the three required photos which were low contrast (the copies I post are all made from the microfilm which is not a good medium for photo reproduction). But it is always interesting to connect a face with the object. Enjoy! Ross Kelbaugh www.ssdaggers.com
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Here is his personal Fragebogen (questionnaire) that he filed with the Race & Settlement application. These are always useful in providing a snapshot of the SS Mann's career up to that point. Ross Kelbaugh www.ssdaggers.com
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This is a part of his Stammrollen or personnel record card that documents his SS career up through 1938. It is interesting to note that according to this, he had not received an Ehrendolch though he qualified for one. However, this is not the first time I have found mistakes or discrepancies in the records. Enjoy! Ross Kelbaugh www.ssdaggers.com
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Hi Ross, Is that his SSZA # at 3467??? Cheers Seiler (Yank in UK) Doug P. Nice to see this stuff but its still tired!!
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