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#187114 05/21/2008 06:37 PM
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Is there any signficance on the numbering on the back of a ss civilian badge stickpin with the makers mark -Hoffstatter/Bonn.
Are these #'s the recipients ss number?
Thanks in advance for any input.

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Not the owners serial number.

Considered a manufacturing secquence
number and of no significance.This has been
proven direct from the documents of
many officers.
A student of such pins)
Seiler (Yank in UK) Wink

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It seems to be just an issue number with no relation to their SS or NSDAP number.

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#187118 05/28/2008 09:24 AM
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Is the maker mark raised on this pin per chance?

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Don


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#187119 05/28/2008 03:34 PM
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I have several pins including Gahr.
Have never liked these "raised" names.
With such a low number,I have always leaned toward them being Gahr in origin.Before
Hoffstatter picked up the volume demand.
Not for me.To each his own..
Seiler (Yank in UK) Roll Eyes

#187120 05/28/2008 09:46 PM
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Hi Dean

I would say that the pin you have posted is a post-war reproduction, I am sorry to say.

Hoffst�tter pins were very different on the back of with the MM being stamped and the numbers are a different size and font.

The likelihood of them changing the whole production set-up for a small range of pins seems highly unlikely given their low value.

The only differences I do see on original pins is that some have the issue number engraved rather than stamped.

Raymond

#187121 05/29/2008 03:22 AM
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Number is stamped and not raised.
Thank you for the input.

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Makers mark is raised.
Thanks for your time.

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CAN YOU SHOW PICS OF FRONT AND BACK AGAIN,HERES MINE.

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Jim-
I'll get some more pictures posted soon.
Thanks for posting your examples.
I found a interesting post by Grumpy under the SS&SA uniform category titled: SS Membership Pin Large dated 6-21-2006 that went back and fourth about this style of pin but it never seemed to come to a conclusion.
Also I found this style of pin selling in a grouping on Craig's site.

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I SAW 3 PINS IN A PIC ON HIS SITE A WHILE BACK.THE FM/SS PIN WAS THE ONLY ONE I WOULD HAVE IN MY COLLECTION.LOOK AT THE FOUR FM/SS PINS FRONT AND BACK.THE I.D. OF THE MAKER WAS SERIOUS.THE NAZI GOVERMENT WAS SERIOUS ABOUT THE QUALITY OF ITEMS THEY SPENT THEIR MONEY ON.ON MOST OF THESE PINS THEY HAD TO LOOK VERY PROFESIONALLY MARKED OR NO CONTRACT FOR YOU ANY MORE MR.MAKER.

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IF THE MAKER TRY TO PUSH JUNK IT WAS JAIL TIME FOR HIM.THEY WERE VERY SERIOUS ABOUT HOW THE MONEY WAS SPENT.

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GES GESCH=LEGALITY PROTECTED

#187130 06/30/2008 04:26 PM
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An excellent link you wont want to miss.Wink
http://daggers.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/6740015654/m/8740086215
Thanks, Jim.

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#187131 06/30/2008 05:56 PM
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As Jim says,the pins on the Gottlieb site
have only one "good" one.
Seiler (Yank in UK) Frown


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