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#156356 10/06/2006 02:05 PM
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*moved to its own topic from unrelated*

Evgenies example.

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and i wanna ask one more quastion
look at this wolf hook ring ,
is anybody look something like this ?

#156358 10/06/2006 02:10 PM
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by the way ... next foto

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#156359 10/06/2006 02:12 PM
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E is that a stamp on the outside?

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I have never seen this typ of ring with a Wolfsangel.

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E., the stamp on the outside of band is highly unusual, but in the right circumstances you will occasionally see it.

It appears to be the same [yet to be properly identified] stamp as this. This stamp does appear on good known rings, usually seen on inside of band. Remember, it should be stamped into the band, not cast in..
Better photos of ring and marks needed..

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#156363 10/06/2006 02:32 PM
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about Wolfhook ring
Ring have stamp 835 and as say to me saller , ring have stylized sword stamp or sothing like this
I try get from him more better foto

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Hi Evgeniy,
I like that Wolfhook ring, a lot. First one that Ive seen that I like. Good stamps and they look "stamped" though its hard to tell. Id like to see some closer pics of the stamps.
Nice!
Cheers,
Ryan
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#156365 10/07/2006 06:44 PM
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I wanna ask about this stamp
Anybody know sothing about it ?
P.S. and thx to all for your asnwers
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What do you mean "Remember, it should be stamped into the band, not cast in.." ???
I dont understan it

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#156366 10/09/2006 02:42 AM
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i got some more better foto

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#156367 10/09/2006 02:42 AM
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#156369 10/09/2006 02:52 AM
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The content and other marks are usually stamped in..Repros the marks are cast, already made into the rubber mold..

Stamp on left is for when ring is already formed and stamp must be inside band.

One of the marks looks like the crossed arrow stamp I posted,,you really need to get a better photo of it and especially the one next to it...,G.

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#156370 10/09/2006 01:50 PM
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But ring not germans and as i know only germans juwellirs stamped in band of ring
I do not see contradictions
Or I am not right ?

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Many stamped on inside of band...The ring is supposed to be Dutch...

*Some new information has come in to me..The mark is Dutch! It is supposed to be a sword.
It was used on small pieces that did not have the other mandatory marks on it. Dutch used the mark 1906 to 1953 on 833 up to 934!

Their silver had date codes and also makers marks but small pieces only had to have the sword..Please try and get a better photo of the mark next to it.. Again, a good clear photo will show if they both are cast in or from a mold...,G.

#156372 11/17/2006 08:33 AM
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Well, yesterday has received a ring
Look at this stamp, thats all stamps in ring

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#156373 11/17/2006 08:35 AM
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as i found, info. in internet about stamp
"D & E - These sword marks used 1814-1905 as the standard mark on articles too small for the full hallmarking. They were also used to mark the excess pieces of fully hallmarked objects made of multiple parts.
F - This sword mark was used 1906-1953, circumstances are the same as D & E. From 1953 onward, a similar sword is used, but with standard numerals on the blade (.835 & .925)"
As i see my stamp like "E"

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#156374 11/18/2006 05:54 AM
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E. , some one has graciously sent me an example to study. It was/is in terrible condition and has been cleaned many times.

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The ring was sold by a company that sold fakes in the 1970s. But that doesn't mean all examples are bad..

The ring has the same marks. Made of silver. Stamped,, very thin..There's a good chance they could be original period rings..I still have research to do on it...,G.

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#156376 11/18/2006 07:37 AM
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Very interesting info., but as i see , quality of manufacturing of my ring, and yours very strongly differs
May be you wanna some foto of my ring ?
Gaspare , you got foto or ring , if you have this ring , plz post foto it here
Evgeniy


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