i owned one marked 935 4 on the lower cross arms. purchased it at a max in pittsburgh several years ago, no ribbon, and the dealer had a kc of the iron cross marked 800, another kc of the iron cross marked 935 4 and several cased examples of ic 1st marked 4. joe pankowski got the kc of the ic and i got the war merit cross marked 935 4. i will try and dig up some photos of it and post here this weekend..