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What do you guys think ?
The pictures are not all that good but we can still clearly see the Rohm inscription.
Someone wish to have other opinions aside from mine.
Thanks !

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From what i can see i'd go with fake etch...

But i know whos selling it so it must be right and i am wrong

I knew there was a reason to stay away from Rohms & Himmlers....

Pat, I'm a novice as far as Rohm's go, but read as much about them as I can on this site in case I come into contact with one here in NZ.

Compared with what I've seen in previous threads, I would think this is a fake - my reasons being mainly the differences to the 'T', the 'R' and the 'M'.

I'd be interested to know if I've learned correctly, or whether I should continue to avoid these...!

Regards
Russell

IMO, the inscription is too different, and the anomalies could not be attributed to template distortion or etch process. Packs are just so frequently faked or embellished, but the early ones are usually distinctive as a complete piece (grip, crossguards and scabbard). I would like to see the entire inscription and the grip if you have more pics... I would avoid this one for sure, is it yours Pat?

Red

Pardon my ignorance,But is this what they call a "Punkin Head"??

This dagger does not belongs to me but a friend of mine has asked me to post those pics on the forum for authentification.
These are the only pics available for now.
However, I feel uneasy about it because it does not exactly correspond to an original inscription.
Here's mine for comparaison( which I hope is right ) and you can see that the letter "T" on the word Ernst and the letter "R" in the word Rohm are very different from one another.
Are such variables acceptable ? I'm having mixed feelings about it but cannot be 100% certain.

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I think that trying to verify Rohm inscriptions from photos is not conclusive except in the case of the obvious fakes.

Tell your friend to get the dagger to an expert.

Dave

I was asked to post these pictures on the forum for authentification but didn't know that they were coming from a dealer's web site.
Those pictures are from T. Wittmann's web page.
Sorry for any inconvenience and I had no intention of braking any rules of conduct.

Cheers !

Not saying good or bad, I think too many people jump on Packs being bad too quickly. Remember, Pack was one of the largest producers of Rohm daggers, so you would expect to find a lot of them.
In my motel buys, I have found more PACK Rohms (both full inscription and ground) than any other maker of Rohms.
Ron Weinand
Weinand Militaria

Why does the criticism stop when it's known where the dagger comes from? Before this was revealed it looked suspicious - now it's let's back off, you must have the dagger in hand etc. etc. Bill Shea's SA Rohm dagger was worth every penny at $8500 - have they gone up in value $2500 in a few weeks? In that case they'll be $12,000 by Christmas - better buy now!

Brian,

Let's just say that if this dagger didn't belong to Wittmann, the present thread would certainly be much more "active".

Leaving the criticisms of the dagger itself aside, what do you think of the current dealers retail price of $8500 for a "minty" SA Rohm? Is this a reasonable market price? I get the idea from reading the threads that SA Rohms are rather common, esp. in comparison to SS Rohms & Himmlers?

Just 2 years ago, you could buy a near mint full Rohm SA for about $ 5,000 USD from any top dealers.
I would think that $ 7,000 USD for an SA in a near mint condition would be fare enought in today's market.
Couple of friends of mine have sold theirs in E++ condition for between $ 6,000 and $ 6,500 USD.

I was under the impression that with E-pack's Rohms that the "&" was a key indicator with authentication??

Absolutely not !

... but it has been questioned many times before, even by the more experienced senior members.

http://daggers.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/477091573/m/7560084504