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#111877 05/27/2007 11:20 PM
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jesper where have i said you have cheated anyone? i suggested you might be able to help as you knew gil/sylvie very well ,at least that is what you told me, and now i read you helped vintage time with his purchase good for you

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As far as I recall we talked about you byuing my Henckels - that Gil at that time put on eban for me?

If this is correct I'd like to tell you that it WAS NOT the same dagger...

The reason Gil put MY Henckels on eban was that I was banned from eban due to the usual "items that glorify the Nazis" :-o

This is NOT the same as me being in cohoo (or whatever the word was) with Gil.

I think that I can remember that the dagger was sold to somebody else that wanted to pay more for the dagger. HE GOT THE DAGGER !!!

Do you want me to spend a couple of hours finding the buyer and having him acknowledge that he got the dagger from me?

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#111879 05/28/2007 11:35 AM
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look i have not accused you of anything
i suggested as you had a business relationship with gil and sylvie ,you did have such a relationship?, you might be able to help
as you did with other people
out of interest did the chained and the gorget come from gil/sylvie?
i believe the henckles you had gil/sylvie sell for you on ebay to be the same dagger perhaps they used your photos?
i think you do protest too much!

#111880 05/28/2007 11:37 AM
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if you ask someone to sell an item for you it is being in cohoots with then if only to sell that item

#111881 05/28/2007 12:25 PM
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The "business" relationship only went so far that I asked Gil to sell my dagger. That's it.

The contact ended I found out that he obviously rips people off.

I do not have anything else to say.

Jesper

PS: My Henckels wasn't as nice as the one pictured in the beginning of this thread.

#111882 05/28/2007 03:21 PM
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jesper
i have just found the payment request you sent me through paypal for the henckles dagger gil/sylvie sold for you on ebay your paypal id is
KINGWENSLAS
which used to be the name gil/sylvie used on ebay
???????

#111883 05/28/2007 04:39 PM
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AHA - now THAT is interesting. I DID NOT know that he tried to invoice you and look upon this as a proof...

I DO hope you don't think that I'm a crook - I DO hope we all know that this Gil should be stopped - SOMEHOW.

BUT it's REALLY hard. How about sending a link to the thread on GDC to eBan ?

Jesper

#111884 05/28/2007 04:52 PM
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If Gil was listing it for you, eBay sends the invoice for the seller automatically, using the sellers PayPal account, so no mystery here...

#111885 05/28/2007 05:13 PM
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no the paypal id is kingwenslas
seller email [email protected]
the account is in the name of jesper hjorth
i was sent this by jesper not gil/sylvie
this is one reason i did not go through with the transaction the other is i received an email from a gd member warning me that he had bought the same dagger from jesper/gil/sylvie and not recieved it

#111886 05/28/2007 05:14 PM
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ebay did not send the payment request it came from jesper

#111887 05/28/2007 06:54 PM
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In that case it was OK.

Please remember that I was banned on eBan and therefore asked Gil for help.

Regards
Jesper

#111888 05/28/2007 06:55 PM
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Let's forget about this matter - nobody fortunately got hurt HERE !!!

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#111889 05/28/2007 07:09 PM
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i still think its strange your paypal id was kingwenslas the same as gil/sylvies ebay id kingwenslas ?????

#111890 05/28/2007 08:47 PM
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As vintagetimenow explains this is because the dagger was sold under his eBan ID.

But I don't want to spend more time on this matter.

Jesper

#111891 05/28/2007 09:37 PM
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Woa! Am I ever glad I posted these pics!
Thanks for the information, you all saved me a lot of grief.

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you do not explain how his ebay id is the same as your paypal id KINGWENSLAS and the fact that you not he sent me the payment request coincidence i dont think so!!!

#111893 05/29/2007 06:24 AM
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As previously written:

1. I was banned from eBan because of MY Henckels.

2. Gil put MY Henckels on eBan an SPECIFICALLY wrote that the dagger was sold for a friend.

3. Hence I naturally send an invoice to the buyer.

Jesper

#111894 05/29/2007 11:30 AM
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Wow! I am pretty happy I decided to post the pics before buying. It is the same person in CZ. I think I will give it a miss.

#111895 05/29/2007 12:18 PM
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Jesper...


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#111896 06/01/2007 07:50 PM
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SYLVIE SALTER (kingwenslas) is also operating with email: [email protected]

I questioned about pics of the '36 on ebay, got some pics and asked for even more pics.
Second email contained pics of a different dagger, and after asking why he sent me pics of a different dagger I got a "semi-rude" reply. Needless to say I bailed out of any further contact with Syl.

Cheers,


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#111897 06/01/2007 08:03 PM
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Impressive Roll Eyes

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#111898 06/01/2007 10:41 PM
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I have some interesting news:

Daggerman6 was banned late last year. The IP address under which he signed up is identical to two used by Pawel Nowak(owski) ... the gent who spams us regularly and send out pictures of item he does not own.

Well, well, well Big GrinBig Grin

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#111899 06/01/2007 10:52 PM
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Man, this Gil scammer is really annoying, and dangerous....

Maybe a good reason to have a sticky note thread with known scam artists?

#111900 06/02/2007 07:22 AM
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A VERY good idea - a "warning" section on GDC !!!

Jesper

#111901 07/03/2007 03:42 AM
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Update on the crook Gil Syl Salter, was Kingwenslas on eBay, has changed his eBay name to warchild1939. He still has 100% positive feedback too on eBay. Still fishing with a picture of a tang and the promise of a chained ss dagger.

#111902 07/03/2007 05:02 AM
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If I am not mistaken Gil is the guy who fooled another member Neal Jackson (hope I recall correct name) some three years ago... He mentioned seller's wife is Czech, seller itself American, both living in Prague. I understand when someone's post is a bt offensive to CZ in such cases, because a lot of fakes and copies are made in countries of former eastern block.
I am traveling to Prague in next few days so I can discuss this problem with my friends... May be we could help, but I cannot promise anything for sure...

Jan

#111903 07/03/2007 07:29 AM
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Jan CZ,

? Can this Internet Crook - Silvie Salter / Slaterova, etc. - be Reported to the Police in Praha for his Internet Cheating of GDC Members?

? Perhaps you can Inquire "HOW" to go about filing a Complaint, to the CZ Police. (They don't want Internet Crimes from CZ).

It seems like a number of guys have been Cheated - and have the Proof!!

Txs, Dave ...dblmed


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#111904 07/03/2007 08:15 AM
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Dave, I see in this case really high number of guys had been fooled and the loss is tens of thousands of dollars... This is very serious crime everywhere. I will ask my sources and let members know details about legal action.

Jan

#111905 07/04/2007 01:44 AM
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JAN CZ,

I thank you, as I am also one who was duped and cheated by Silvie SalterFrown He got me for a Chained SS & this SAME Transitional RZM Henckels) .... I bought from him for over 2 years.

I bought several Items from him on EBay, and no problems. ALL of the 1st year's Items were good, and ALL checked out OK. .....

Then came the empty box Frown & a BS story to follow it. YES, he is (or he became) a total Crook & a Fraud due to greed - & - the Ease of Internet Fraud...

My Example ..........

RE: SS Dagger

Dave, I was thinking..I have a bank account in Florida with Wachovia Bank..You could wire the funds there and it would save you Western Union Fees..Let me know and i'll give you the info? Sylvie [email protected]

Ok Dave, The total is $XXXX..Thats with $45 for Express Mail Shipping and you can Track it on the USPS web site.

Here is the Bank info:

Sylvie Salter
Account # 1010034270853
Routing # 063000021
Swift Code # PNBP US33
Wachovia Bank National Association
NC 8502
PO Box 563966
Charlotte N.C. 28262-3966 USA

....................
JAN, we need to STOP this Internet Thief ! ! !

Txs for ALL of your Efforts. Dave .... dblmed

(I need to apply to Dave H & Vern for one of those "I've been scammed Logos" to put by my name, I guess Frown


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#111906 07/04/2007 03:01 AM
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Yes, the empty box! The weight as weighed at the post office is the same as received=meaning it was sent empty:

http://daggers.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/217096573/...650042354#3650042354

I searched the forum prior to the deal thinking if he screwed somebody, his name would be on the forums. Well, it is now. Anyway, he sent a box that he made look like was pilfered...until I noticed the weight when shipped on the label matched the weight of the box as it was when I got it....yep, it was sent empty with newspaper wrappings made to look like they were removed from daggers.

I was too trusting and had no real previous problems with eBay sellers. He has a 100% positive eBay rating for now, but I imagine that may change and he has his feedback private as well. Usually when sellers have private auctions and private feedback, people will understand those are warning signs.

Here is the info.

eBay: Kingwenslas changed his eBay name to warchild1939

Sylvie Salter
P.O. Box 63
Praha 2, 1200
Czech Republic


Wachovia Bank USA
Sylvie Salter
Account # 1010144206762
Routing # 053000219
Swift Code US33CHA
Wachovia Bank N.C. 8502
P.O Box 563966 Charlotte, N.C 28262-3699.

#111907 07/04/2007 11:21 AM
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Vintagetimenow.... Your Post got me thinking, and I have some more information on Sylvie Salter - as I took Photos of the 'very light box' -expecting the worst & it was (!)

(1) Sylvie Salter�. The Fraud:

Box Label � Maybe someone can READ the declared Weight of the �Empty� Box sent to me? That would be PHENOMENALLY Interesting & Helpful (!) �. Txs, Dave �.. dblmed

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#111908 07/04/2007 11:23 AM
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NOW, I even see it = the weight is .335 KG, hardly the weight of 3 SS Daggers, 1 of them a Chained 36.... Dave .....dblmed


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#111909 07/04/2007 11:24 AM
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(2) Sylvie Salter�. The Fraud:

Unopened Box: Dave �.. dblmed

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#111910 07/04/2007 11:25 AM
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(3) Sylvie Salter�. The Fraud:

Opened Box � with wrapping appearing to be that which would surround a Dagger = but NO DaggersJ Dave� dblmed

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#111911 07/04/2007 11:28 AM
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(4) Syl�s Reply to my Email of "NO DAGGERS" � July 24, 2006 �� from Sylvie Salter�.

OH NO!!! Dave the package has been Pilfered..That is the box i sent, I couldnt use the tube as 3 daggers wont fit in it.I wraped the box Very well as normal..I never use brown tape of any kind i only use clear packing tape, It was taped over.I took the box to the post myself the same 1 i always go to..Dave Ive used collctables,Letter openers, Hobby parts and the like many times infact ive used collectable knives on other dags i sent you..That is the newspaper i wraped them in Theres still the clear tape on it..That is the Postage reciept i filled out...God dam it! Dave i know what the problem is and it's not here.. Dave I sent a guy a SS Tunic and dagger 4 months ago, He never got it..1 Month after i had sent it he recieved a letter from the postal inspector at JFK in New York, The package i sent him and 30 others were found on the Tarmack there all opened and contents gone..And thats not the 1st time..2 other packages over the last 3yrs i sent to the US came up missing all at JFK..They have had a Postal theft problem there for yrs..The FBI has been investigating for yrs as well and arrested many..The 30 boxes on the Tarmack are still under investigation..There are alot of Blacks & Hispanics employed by them and Orginized Crime has a hand in there as well. Dave i'm Very Very Sorry..I'll go to the post today to start an investigation..In the past though it did nothing because i didnt insure the packages.I never have as it paints a Big Red Bullseye on the Box Steal Me..Plus customs in the US would nail it with fees anything over $200 they nail...
Syl [email protected]

NO DaggersFrown & a loss of a good chunk of money.
This same thing WILL Continue, unless we can Stop it ....... Dave� dblmed


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Ah yes, he uses the same story and technique it would seem, as the inside on my box had newspaper with clear tape as if daggers were wrapped in it, then torn off. Also the clear tape on the outside of the box, opened, then brown plastic tape to reclose it...sort of fooled me for a minute until I check the weight of the box on the shipping label, and it was the same. I had the same sinking feeling when the box arrived and was so light. Same story about the JFK workers.

I've kept the box as a painful reminder...plus as evidence if I ever get the chance to use it!



SYL wrote:
John, I went to the post again this morning.. I know now for certain the daggers were stolen from here. I was told in the last few months over 40 packages have arrived at there destination countrys with the contents missing..I was told by the lady at the post that 6 employees are under investigation for inside postal theft, they were opening the boxes taking out the items and them sending them out. The postal inspector and police are investigating,She also told me they are suspected of being part of a theft ring that is operating here and in poland, She most likely the items were taken out of the country and will be Hard to track down..She also said it could take months to complete the investigation that i have to wait and see if my items and everybody elses items can be recovered and then identified..So John this is where it stands now..The post wont do anything until this thing comes to a head..I have to wait. John I'm real sorry for the problem this thing is making me Sick..Please dont be upset with me it's not my fault! Syl



Hi Syl,
Thanks for the update.
I sent the money in good faith, paid for postage and insurance. I have nothing in return, except an empty box. I'm not sure that it is fair that I have to wait for months for a claim that in the end may be denied. I�m very upset about this.
What do you as the seller think would be fair?



Hi John, Yes i know i dont blame you for being so, I'm Very Upset myself this is not the 1st time as i told you with postal problems, John Yes you are right about the reciept, The thing is i already started the claim process when i found out the other day what happened The woman at the Reclaim dept in the post office advised me to go ahead and start it..I turned in the reciept to her for processing along with the forum i had to fill out, Also i dont know if the box was wighed correctly to begin with? I will go there on monday with my camera and take pic! Syl



That was the last email from him, until he tried to sell me some more daggers under a different name and email address! Please pass this on to all of your collecting friends so no one else gets ripped off by this crook. Feel free to leave him negative feedback if you can!


Thanks, John

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Stopping Fraud - Pawel Nowak, Sylvie Salter & Others

I have Posted a REQUEST on the Premium Members Forum - to Dave & Vern, for them to 'Consider' ADDING a WARNING Notice to New (& Current) Members of GDC - REGARDING UNSOLICITED OFFERS......

So far, there have been no Comments, or other Posts added on to this Thread...

"IF" you Feel Strongly About this matter of Trying to stop the Fraud..... Please Post.. Txs, Dave ....dblmed


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#111914 07/11/2007 07:18 AM
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For sure these bastards must be stopped, the only question is: how? Is there any EFFECTIVE legal way to do it?
It looks like all that can be done is to warn people on this forum and pass the info to Wehrmacht Awards and other forums.
Or, I have the other idea: anyone here into voodoo? I guess some puppets and some needles would do the job Big Grin

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I'm very sorry to hear this. I don't know what can be done. I don't have much faith in the Police agencies in the former "Block" countries.
Maybe Jan will bring back some hopeful news.
-wagner-

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i used to live in czech republic, and was aware that the postal system was unreliable. he said...

Ive been lucky i havent had anything lost or stolen from the post but i always go to the main one..Expensive items like daggers i always send them Express mail with Tracking and Insured if the person asks for it..With Express mail the items not at the post for more than a day which is good and can be pulled up on the postal website! Cheers!!

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