Gentlemen, these daggers may be made pre 1945, or made from original pieces and constructed post 1945. If this be the case, then those who produced the daggers pre 1945, would make a dagger that would be identical to those produced earlier. However, if chains are added that have sperious marks, and the marks shown are without doubt that, the piece is at best questionable. A parts construction. As an illistration, a 7 place medal bar has a blue ribbon, but no medal. This has added to it an 8 year SS medal which is a copy. Dose this then make the bar a legittermate bar? I hope the analagy is not lost on those who think that these chains do not have an influence on the validitty of these daggers.