I too have to come back to the Hall marking. If these are fake, and fake they be. Then the chains and clasp have to be fake. Let us pause here for reflection, fake chains. These are then attached to a dagger, the mount has to be constructed to accomplish this. PLEASE AGAIN LET US PAUSE.What dose this show? You do not have to be Einsteine, at best the piece has been up graded with fake pieces. OK, what doe this say to us? How many serriouse collectors or studier of History are going to say -- this is a totally genuine piece?