Mark, I'm not trying to deflect anything. If the 6 points that I brought up do not coincide with the characteristics of a period 3rd Reich dagger, then no one can prove a single dagger that they own, was made during the 3rd Reich period.

What I've outlined is consistent characteristics as we know them, to fall within the guidelines of a period made 3rd Reich dagger. I'm not talking signature or chain at this point, but refer to only the scabbard & fittings, crossguard hardware, grip/ emblems, and blade at this time; to get an agreement or consensus on those as being original pieces. Those items are in tune to what we know as period produce dagger parts. Even Fred Stephens I believe has agreed to this point. Smile