#57755
10/14/2008 07:58 PM
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#57756
10/14/2008 08:40 PM
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My guess would be that this is a Polish fake. A lot of similar holders came out of Poland in the 70's, I even got one myself "from" 1.SS pz. Corps AH Leibstandarte.
Regards Trond.
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#57757
10/14/2008 08:46 PM
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some nice work on it ,,but still a fake!
These were at many of the bazzars in Eastern Europe. Most have the 'Deaths Head'..
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#57758
10/14/2008 09:31 PM
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Too bad, it had a lovely design.Oh well...
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#57759
10/14/2008 10:10 PM
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I like the adding of the RZM mark too.
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#57760
10/14/2008 10:24 PM
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I AGREE THAT THIS IS A FAKE. A GLARING ERROR MADE BY THE FAKER IS A LACK OF A MANUFACTURER'S RZM CODE, WHICH WAS MANDATED FOR ANY RZM APPROVED ITEM. BOB
"A man needs to know his limitations" Dirty Harry Gold Badge #263
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#57761
10/14/2008 11:27 PM
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I think the addition of the RZM was the error - otherwise it looks like a hand/field made item that could pass for an era piece.
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#57762
10/14/2008 11:53 PM
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looks to have been made from a template,so i dont think that "handmade/field made" would be quite so "perfect"... ![Frown](http://daggers.infopop.net/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif)
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#57763
10/15/2008 04:54 AM
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Nice point Bob, but we have to know for sure if these items really ever had an RZM number(for future buys).I have found another one also with the number imprinted, will post soon.
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#57764
10/15/2008 06:47 AM
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Here is the holder that I mentioned earlier in this thread. This one's made of brass and have the RZM stamp on the back. I was told this was an original, but I'd rather think it's a polish fake. I allso have 34 different kind's of German matchboxes "from" WWII, but they are IMO post-war productions.
Regards Trond.
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#57765
10/15/2008 06:48 AM
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Regards Trond.
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#57766
10/15/2008 06:57 AM
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Here are a few of the matchboxes. The white SS box in the upper left corner is quite a bit smaller than all the rest so it's probably made by someone else than the other's.....or could it be the real thing? ![Roll Eyes](http://daggers.infopop.net/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif)
Regards Trond.
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#57767
10/15/2008 07:09 AM
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Since we're allready in the "smoking-room" I might as well show you this sigar-holster/case. Nice piece of craftmanship, light soft brown leather and excellent seems. The story goes that this was found in an Waffen-SS tornister in an old house here in Norway. Of course this could be true, but IMO someone placed the stamp there just to raise it's value and that it's not a periode stamp.
Regards Trond.
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#57768
10/15/2008 07:10 AM
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Regards Trond.
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#57769
10/15/2008 07:10 AM
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Regards Trond.
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#57770
10/15/2008 12:43 PM
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very interesting fakes but i like the leather box,its a real deal!!!
Ig
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#57771
10/15/2008 01:07 PM
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What do you mean, what about the "leather box"?
Regards Trond.
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#57772
10/15/2008 02:12 PM
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matchboxes fakes,fake stamp on leather pouch,fake matchbox holder,,,see these often of FEE BAY,,ouch! ![Frown](http://daggers.infopop.net/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif)
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#57773
10/15/2008 03:38 PM
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They are all fakes..have no doubt!! ![Wink](http://daggers.infopop.net/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif)
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