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Hi! Does anybody knows what a bayonet marked P.R.8. 2142 on the crossguard is related to? It's a normal combat with no other markings on it (commercial?) Sorry but no photos avaliable this time. Thanks in advance.

Nacho, It's a Spanish Army marking that is seen on some Spanish manufactured clones of the 98K bayonet. And some German contract pieces that were made for Spain in the late 1930's. FP

It means Para (fusil) Reformado Numero 8.

For reformed rifle model 8.
This was a mix of Spanish Mauser 1943 and cetme parts, known as FR8.
FR7 was made from Spanish 1893 and Cetme parts.
And carried.....P.R.7 bayonet.
Simply.

Here is a P.R.8 marked bayonet for sale on a UK site (it says it's Panzer Regt 8 but I think that's just a bit of wishful thinking...), it's a 1936 dated Commercial bayonet and is WaA stamped.

German made, P.R.8 marked 84/98...

UR is'nt that the same bayo with eagles head you have that is on nacho's avatar?

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Originally posted by will jones:
UR is'nt that the same bayo with eagles head you have that is on nacho's avatar?

Dont know....could be; if he can add a bigger picture...I have old eyes....

sorry nacho just borrowed your avatar
UR Should be a bigger pic

Maybe, need to see the rest of the bayonet !!
NACHO UNA FOTO POR FAVOR !!!

IMHO,UR is absolutely right about P.R.8.We can find this mark not only on German contract bayonets, but also on other. Here is my Spanish Bayonet with same marks.
LOL about Panzer Regt 8 explanation

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Remember one thing about the Spanish bayonets, at least the official issued to the Armies.
NEVER, never have unit markings.

Mike, i too have seen that explanation on a certain dealers website in the uk , imho he is a guy to stay away from , not only is he expensive(i spoke to him the other day to try build a buying rapport i explained that i thought he was pricey to say the least , his response was if "you want the best you pay the best price" trust me he is not selling the "best" he has also been selling fantasy ss etch combats (not just the one i started a thread on) , This is just my humble opinion

hi UR! you're totally right! Thanks a lot. The attachment is a FR-8 rifle

..it was not very difficult !!
But what about F.R.6 ???
Wich is the Fusil Reformado N�mero 6 ?

Its the Spanish 1893/16 7x57 mm, rechambered to 7,62x51 CETME. People is shooting 7,62 x 51 NATO (308 Win) in this old ladys, without considerd that the NATO round is much hotter than Cetme round in spite they have same dimensions. Just aware.

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Mike, i too have seen that explanation on a certain dealers website in the uk , imho he is a guy to stay away from , not only is he expensive(i spoke to him the other day to try build a buying rapport i explained that i thought he was pricey to say the least , his response was if "you want the best you pay the best price" trust me he is not selling the "best" he has also been selling fantasy ss etch combats (not just the one i started a thread on) , This is just my humble opinion

Yes, he has some eye watering prices and some 'interesting' descriptions on some items!! I have bought off him but it's not somewhere I'd make a habit of buying from, well not unless the prices drop down quite a bit, some of the 84/98 bayonets ain't too bad but are way, way over priced.

I would ask UR when it was reworked to PR8? in early 50ies? i saw yesterday a SG84/98 with SS fake etch, and PR8 and number on crossguard, the maker was bad visible but S/ code so 1935-37. thanks,Andy

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Originally posted by AndyB:
I would ask UR when it was reworked to PR8? in early 50ies? i saw yesterday a SG84/98 with SS fake etch, and PR8 and number on crossguard, the maker was bad visible but S/ code so 1935-37. thanks,Andy

No much later.
Remember Cetme C, that lend many of the FRs parts is model 69 ( 1969), so I bleive lasts years of the 70s.

Hello UR, i have researched Your opinion about the PR8, it doesnt look like correct, all links that i found with FR7 and FR8 rifles have the new or upgraded barell and special attachment for Cetme bayonet, there are no signs of using of old M93 or M43 bayonets on them. One spanish collector declared as it should be remain a mystery this marking, evidently not stamped on M41 bayonets, it were found on M93, M93/13, german SG84/98 and maybe on M43 bayonets.best regards,Andy