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Hello, I've read, he produced c. 1000 SA daggers. Do you have anyone Klaas SA/NSKK?

Best, Lukas.

Lukas. I have this trans klaas. Is this what you are talking about?
SSman

Hello ssman, I thought early dagger made by R. Klaas. I know this klaas transitional pieces.

Lukas.

We have discussed this a few times and no one has ever turned up an early maker-marked SA by Klass*. Transitionals, as seen above are OK.

Dave

* You have one ? or a Boker or G Hammesfahr, please let me know

Surprisingly enought, though Klaas and Boker were very large producers of early SS daggers, they seem to never make any early SA daggers.

Pat:
Even a firm as large as Eickhorn didn't make a complete line of daggers as far as we know. This was partially due to exclusivity because of patent constraints but I also suspect it was a concious effort on their part to not spread themselves too thin. We also know this was a real issue because even this big Company farmed some of their part making out to other firms.
Tooling up to make separate daggers on a production basis would have been a time consuming undertaking and as the War requirements for necessities like bayonets became more critical I expect something had to give.
Anyway that's my take on it.
Jim

Luko, I assume you are referring to Fisher's book where he says 1000 of these were made and their relative incidence is 1/1000. This is in error and just an arbitrarily chosen number, especially in this case where it appears the incidence is 0/1000. Over half of all the SA makers he recognizes he assigns this rating of 1000 made and 1/1000, and not all he recognizes are correct. Mike

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Originally posted by Pat:
Surprisingly enought, though Klaas and Boker were very large producers of early SS daggers, they seem to never make any early SA daggers.

Very true Pat and Boker never made any RZM daggers as far as I know.

Thanks guys. Of course I never didn't see early Klaas, B�ker or Hammesfahr. I'm just wondering why we can see transitional and RZM Klaas but not early?

Best, Lukas.

Yea, other than Eickhorn&Pack the early SS makers did not seem to make any early SA's, Rich Herder, Boker, Klass, Bertram. I'm sure there's a good reason, just never heard it....

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Originally posted by lakesidetrader:
Yea, other than Eickhorn&Pack the early SS makers did not seem to make any early SA's, Rich Herder, Boker, Klass, Bertram. I'm sure there's a good reason, just never heard it....

My guess is that they didn't want to put a substandard dagger out after the RZM rules for cheaper materials to be used to manufacture daggers. Just a thought.

hi erich, that could explain, why they didn�t produze late ones. the question here is, why they didn�t produce early sa�s.