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It seems a bid too quite here at the HJ blades forum...
So let's start a new referece topic: between 1936 and 1938 some makers produced RZM only marked blades that did bear the "Blut und Ehre!" motto.
This HJ knife variation is not an easy find... so if you have one? Show us!
Best greetings,
Herman
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Sorry ,but officially the motto was removed in 1938. not saying that some may not have left the factory pre 1938 with the motto missing.
thanks for showing your dagger. very nice condition !!!
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Hello "Okkulist",
Thank you for your post, but from what I can see, it looks like the HJ-knife that you are showing is the famous "RZM M7/2 1938" (Voos) copy... shape of the blade, diamond, diamond cut-out, shape of the fingerguard, shape of the pommel... all are typical features of this wide spread copy... Sorry for the bad news.
Jeff,
- All standard HJ-knifes made before 1938 beared the motto, without any exception!
- Those made in 1938 can be found with or without the motto.
- All HJ knifes made in 1939 or later do not have the motto, also without exceptions!
Some makers made later knifes, which had an earlier year stamped on it, the typical example is Gebruder Grafrath; they used a "1936" marked blades on wartime made knifes, but they bear no motto!
Who has an RZM with motto to show? I know that some memebers have great examples of this rare version of the HJ-knife...
Best greetings,
Herman
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Dear Herman, you mentioned RZM M7/2 1938, but the knife is marked with RZM M7/2 1937,please explain it.
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Hello Occulist,
Yes, that is the exact marking of the wide spread copy, marked "1937" not "1938" (my mistake, sorry).
If you search the forum, you will find pictures of this same postware knife.
Best greetings,
Herman
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thank you Herman for for your comments / correction to my comments. jeff
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I don't know if you accept transitionnal in this topic...but here's mine  JC
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Hello JC,
That is a very nice transitional HJ-knife by Hermann Konejung! But as you mentioned yourself, it is not what I try to get showed here...
There are around 15 makers, which made RZM only marked HJ-knifes with the motto: all were made in 1938 or earlier...
The one that is seen most often is by RZM M7-51 (Anton Wingen Jr), there exist a 1936, a 1937 and maybe even a 1938 version...
Best regards,
Herman
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+Off topic but that is a really nice transitional knife!!
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