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collector friend picked this up. early piece open for discussion. has side grommets and sa style rzm tag..looks good to me...tom

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Looks good to me too!,,,,,,,,,,,,Stephen

Hi Tom good for you! This is one of the harder visor caps to discern from reproductions. Many will stay away from obtaining because they are widely faked and difficult to tell from an original. Looks as if you have acquired a nice example with the details that many collectors desire. cheers, Ryan

Tom,

I like this cap too. It looks like an early one. It is interesting to note how far toward the back of the cap the sweat diamond was placed in this one.

Doug

The cap is quite real and of a type that I find highly pleasing. The tag is quite right for this era of cap, and the silver runics are also perfectly fine. If it is for sale, please let me know. Servus

One can picture a young SS buck wearing this headgear with the stiffner taken out to show the old guard the modern trend !

Also I would like to add a ray of sunshine beams forth on the forum from our dear colleague on the Californian coastline

Welcome back Donald your lack of participation here has been severly missed. cheers, Ryan

Thanks. I must confess I am here with my snout because of magnetism of this headwear. I do not want to raise the other issue, since it was beaten to death, but I greet my friends. Apropos lack of Muetzendraehte &c., do look in the Rest Verlag volumes for the field caps of the era 1914-1918, since it was there (in the trenches..) that this custom of a crushed hat first emerged, actually. It is quite striking. The volume: Juergen Kraus, die dt. Armee im I. Weltkrieg ISBN 3950164251 One should also note that these black caps of the 1st generation are not as constructed, that is, do not have the infrastructure of cane, wire, and batting as is had in the later caps. Often they did not have a cap wire at all, as near as I can tell. I find these caps very pleasing. I have also just had a chance to examine a uniform of the same era, a striking piece from the Sta. in Gotha. A true rarity. Viel Sammlerglueck.

thanks to all.. i know you long time black hat collectors appreciate variations and this one is in that catagory. thanks again.. tom

Is the hersteller number too far gone to make out or just the photo?

Hi Donald can you possibly email me when you have the chance? I need your opinion on an SS officer's cap that has been offerred to me. Thanks and cheers, Ryan [email protected]

This caps has it... looks surely orginal. Nice cap by the way!

Super rare, beautiful headgear and looks all original one piece to the rest, too - gratulieren!

I join others in welcoming Mr. Abenheim back on board.

I join in welcoming the re-appearance of one of our most senior members.

Back to the thread: colleague Castle, I do very much like this cap, quite rare in its own right. For students of same, note horizontal orientation of side buckles, rather than vertical orientation of later (esp M36) version. This is a key, if secondary, verification point for originality.

Congratulations on a superb cap