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This briefly appeared on eBay and then got knocked off 2 days ago. Real or Fake? I say fake!
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The maker mark on this piece was early double oval Eich. I am VERY interested to heat opinions on this one...
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Doesn't look right to me.
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I would be very careful before throwing this one to the can. Most of the fakes Rohm are easily recognizable from obvious red flags. However, I don't really see anything wrong with this one, just some small variances from known originals but nothing really "out of the norms", sort of speak. A hand inspection would definitively prove without a doubt the originality of this dagger, but so far so good...............in my humble opinion. I would like to hear opinions of other members.
It would really help if we could see pics of the maker marked though.
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Here is another (maybe better) pic. of the inscription. PS- This is not my dagger, just trying to help out.
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Notice how wavy the "f" is in Kammeradschaft. Never seen that on a real one.
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Yes, I also noticed the wavy "f" but still, it has many other great attributes that makes me want to be very careful before discarding this dagger. Strangely enought, all of the other letters seems perfectly written, nice and smooth, except this particular "f". It could very well be just some dirt around the bottom tail of the letter "f". It could also be the angle of the pic.
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Here is a pic. of the MM if that helps:
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Here's an original Eickhorn MM from my collection. Maker marked looks just fine and close enought to the lower crossguard. Johnny, no Gau mark on the crossguard ?
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From what I can see it looks like a proper "Eickhorn" style Rohm dedication. I realize that the following statement may bring up some discussion, however I always feel that is good for the hobby...There are minor variations in the Rohm dedications. If one is to take for example a E-Pack and an Eickhorn Rohm dedication and compare them side by side, you will see minor differences that are "period" and correct for those makers. Here we have an Eickhorn with no Gau mark. Is it correct? I have seen them both with and without it. Are the ones without it "parts" or a "rouge"? Or perhaps they are very early examples that were not yet required. Who knows? Here is one from a previous thread that looks to me just like this example. http://daggers.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/477091573/...780087225#9780087225Great thread guys. -Serge-
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I believe that Rohm daggers without a Gau mark are probably presented daggers that bypassed the normal distribution network.
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I have heard that and I'm taken to believe it also. It just makes sense. Now any guess to what percentage are unmarked, compared to the normal Gau versions? ![Cool](http://daggers.infopop.net/infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif)
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There's presently an Eickhorn full Rohm being sold on Wittmann's site, without any Gau mark. I do see them time to time but have no idea as to why there is no Gau mark.
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apart from the f it looks just like my full and part rohm .acid leakage unger the wax?
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