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Posted By: maron Land Customs Dagger, Landzoll - 07/19/2022 04:00 PM
Hello,
does this dagger has any chance to be an original one?

The maker of the blade is WMW Waffen.

Thank you for your opinions...

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Posted By: Eric26 Re: Land Customs Dagger, Landzoll - 07/20/2022 12:23 AM
thinking this is a Spanish copy- the scabbard should narrow at the base
Posted By: maron Re: Land Customs Dagger, Landzoll - 07/20/2022 07:26 AM
Thank you, I think I will not buy it.
Posted By: Dave Re: Land Customs Dagger, Landzoll - 07/20/2022 02:47 PM
Can we ask who is selling this dagger ?

Dave
Posted By: maron Re: Land Customs Dagger, Landzoll - 07/20/2022 03:51 PM
Of course, a friend of mine wants to sell this dagger
Posted By: Dave Re: Land Customs Dagger, Landzoll - 07/20/2022 06:10 PM
Thanks, Maron.
Posted By: Billy G. Re: Land Customs Dagger, Landzoll - 07/21/2022 03:59 PM
The knot is a thick corded repro I believe. The hangers stand a chance however.

The pommel and ferrule show the correct acanthus leaves but detail is not crisp. The same can be said for the crossguard but between the soft detail and poor pics, tough to say.

I have seen Max Weyersberg Land Customs daggers before and I believe they may have made them but Army blades are sometimes swapped. Better pictures might help.
Posted By: maron Re: Land Customs Dagger, Landzoll - 07/21/2022 05:46 PM
Thank you, I will try to make some better pictures..
Posted By: maron Re: Land Customs Dagger, Landzoll - 07/21/2022 05:58 PM
So I tried to make some more pictures. The pommel is very heavy in my opinion...

Maybe this helps. Thank you.

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Posted By: maron Re: Land Customs Dagger, Landzoll - 07/21/2022 05:59 PM
Here are some more..

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Posted By: wotan Re: Land Customs Dagger, Landzoll - 07/22/2022 02:23 PM
Hello maron, I am not totally clear about the dagger (although I tend to think it is a fake piece) but hangers (wrong hardware) and portepee (totally wrong configuration) are for sure fakes. Please can you show the reverse of the scabbard and (without disassambling!) a sight inside the crossguard (blade sit, leather washer)?
Regards,
Posted By: maron Re: Land Customs Dagger, Landzoll - 07/22/2022 08:20 PM
Hello Wotan,
thank you for your opinion. Tomorrow I will make the pictures...
Greetings
Posted By: maron Re: Land Customs Dagger, Landzoll - 07/23/2022 04:36 PM
Hello, here are some more pictures..

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Posted By: maron Re: Land Customs Dagger, Landzoll - 07/23/2022 04:37 PM
some more...

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Posted By: seany Re: Land Customs Dagger, Landzoll - 07/23/2022 10:09 PM
Defiantly a repro very poor castings and overall manufacture
Posted By: wotan Re: Land Customs Dagger, Landzoll - 07/24/2022 12:11 AM
Hello, the grooves on the reverse of the scabbard fittings are normally a bad sign. Only very few (one or two) firms did do that during the period and to my best kowledge WMW is not one of them. The crossguard looks to me, only from these pics, like a cast brass one (see the green gunk between crossguard and leather washer; color of the finish of the crossguard), silvered which would not be proper for period manufactured land custom daggers.
Just from these pics (it would be much more easy to judge the piece in hand) I also tend to think it is a total fake.
Regards,
Posted By: Billy G. Re: Land Customs Dagger, Landzoll - 07/24/2022 03:24 AM
I agree, the better pics tell the tale. A bad dagger rig all around.
Posted By: maron Re: Land Customs Dagger, Landzoll - 07/24/2022 07:39 AM
Hello gentlemen,

thank you very much for your help. I will not buy this dagger. Thanks again for your help.
greetings
Maron
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