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Posted By: mengoj diplomatic corps item's - 10/10/2007 12:53 PM
i guy's
i have this item's in my hands .....
a diplomatic sword
a g.o. dagger
and this skinjacket of ww2
please see the pictures
http://mengoj.blogspot.com
i want an opinion on these item's
Posted By: wotan Re: diplomatic corps item's - 10/20/2007 11:46 AM
There is a question on these items by another membr who has seen them offered at eBay.
I only want to refer to the edged weapons.
What I can see in these partially very detailed and partially blurry pics is the following: The dagger due to all research and common thoughts is called a government official�s dagger (and NOT diplomat�s dagger). Rust on blade is high brown and looks like recently occured. I do own two ALCOSOs, a diplo and a gov and I have seen and have had in hands quite a lot of them of different manufacturing periods. The crossguard of this certain dagger here does not conform to any crossguard I have seen on a doubtless period dagger. The overall of the grip eagle is too smooth for what I have seen on doubtless original daggers.
The degen bears the marking ("Alcoso" in an archbow script) which I was told by all also long time colletors and also some "big names" in the hobby, which has to be avoided to collect. There "might" be originals but nobody, as said also some "big name" ones do not know. Concerning this certain degen due to the appearance of the crossguard eagle and the etching of the blade I tend to think to know.....
Just my thoughts.
Regards,
Posted By: sokol Re: diplomatic corps item's - 10/20/2007 06:00 PM
Here are some pics of a diplo degen. Also a fake. Think from the same manufacturer as above.

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Posted By: sokol Re: diplomatic corps item's - 10/20/2007 06:32 PM
A diplo's take down instument failed to fit the upper screw as it's off center.

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Posted By: anonymous 123 Re: diplomatic corps item's - 10/20/2007 08:38 PM
Off center: As in like this?

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Posted By: wotan Re: diplomatic corps item's - 10/21/2007 12:12 PM
jim m,I do think there is another interpretation: First the holes on your gov/diplo�s dagger are correcly wide apart. Those on the degen are incorrectly very close together. Furtheron, and that is what I think sokol wanted to show, when you do think an imaginable line going throug both holes (the line of the dagger goes through the center of the screw which is totally correct) on the degen this certain line goes beside the center of the screw which is incorrect.
I hope I could describe it proper due to my limited knowledge on the english language.
Regards,
Posted By: sokol Re: diplomatic corps item's - 10/21/2007 04:25 PM
Right you are, wotan. The holes are too close to each other.
Regards,
Andrey
Posted By: Billy G. Re: diplomatic corps item's - 10/23/2007 11:33 AM
Items ended at $9500, sheesh.
Posted By: anonymous 123 Re: diplomatic corps item's - 10/23/2007 04:23 PM
The seller must now be jumping up and down for joy. Not only did he get top dollar for some questionable items but Ebay cancelled the listing. This takes the seller off the hook for any Ebay fees. Big Grin Big Grin
Jim
Posted By: Billy G. Re: diplomatic corps item's - 10/23/2007 10:03 PM
Who knows what'll happen now. Funny too, Eban screwed themselves out of a pretty penny on that sale.
Posted By: mengoj Re: diplomatic corps item's - 10/24/2007 10:05 AM
adversity in the fortune Mad
ebay has me returned the errand of sale (278 � = 400$)
the gentleman that has been awarded the item's anymore is not protected by ebay Frown I hope that it doesn't consider us...
i must to tell things sokol....
my diplomatic sword it is completely different from this sword .... the sketches on the blade , the close up pommel ,the mark of factory is engraved at random on the blade.....
Posted By: sokol Re: diplomatic corps item's - 10/24/2007 05:57 PM
Good for you!
Hope the pics can help fellow collectors.
Andrey
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