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Posted By: wes_143 SA High Leaders Dagger? - 06/02/2010 10:42 PM
Anyone looked at this one on ebay? 150450795700 i dont believe it's real but it's getting the bids fast. Any thoughts? as it is interesting.

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Posted By: Grumpy Re: SA High Leaders Dagger? - 06/02/2010 10:49 PM
It is a fake.
Posted By: anonymous 123 Re: SA High Leaders Dagger? - 06/03/2010 12:19 AM
Here's what a complete example of this reproduction looks like.
Jim

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Posted By: wes_143 Re: SA High Leaders Dagger? - 06/03/2010 12:43 AM
it figuers...i knew enough to doubt it. but those bidders on ebay all seem to be unaware of this fake stuff, but still get into the frinzy of it all and will end up making crazy bids. wish i had money to burn it would get well invested in the real deals out there.
Posted By: wes_143 Re: SA High Leaders Dagger? - 06/03/2010 12:47 AM
Jim , can i ask you what that cost you?
Posted By: Dieter777 Re: SA High Leaders Dagger? - 06/03/2010 01:53 PM
Is it made with any original TR period parts?
Posted By: anonymous 123 Re: SA High Leaders Dagger? - 06/03/2010 02:25 PM
This dagger,which I believe is of Spanish origin is from the late 60s early 70s, and came as part of a collection I bought several years ago so there's no individual cost associated with it. The person I got it from quit colecting in the early 70s so I know it's no newer than that. While it looks good there are no original parts that I can identify. However if a real damascus blade was substituted for the etched copy which is in place this dagger would be a fooler.
Jim
Posted By: mongobongo Re: SA High Leaders Dagger? - 06/03/2010 07:01 PM
All fake by the looks of it, some poor git will pay good money for it.
Posted By: mongobongo Re: SA High Leaders Dagger? - 06/03/2010 08:36 PM
Sent the seller this

Hi

This dagger is 100% fake im afraid, probably spainish reproduction from the 60s or 70s.

Please dont sell it as real as that is really unfair to the buyer

He sent me this

No where in my description does it say this is 100% genuine pre may 1945 Nazi era issue.

It is most definitly NOT a Spanish Copy either, Likely a high quality Museum Copy but anyway there is no need for me to explain anything

I sent him back this

No where in your description does it say it is 100% fake?. Its a thirty dollar copy.
Posted By: mongobongo Re: SA High Leaders Dagger? - 06/03/2010 08:39 PM
I mean look at the description

German WW2/WWII Damascus High Leader Dagger Parts

That implies it is period surely?
Posted By: wes_143 Re: SA High Leaders Dagger? - 06/03/2010 10:05 PM
It does , and some poor dude is already losing money on that gamble.
Posted By: lloyd Re: SA High Leaders Dagger? - 06/04/2010 02:47 AM
quote:
Originally posted by mongobongo:
I mean look at the description

German WW2/WWII Damascus High Leader Dagger Parts

That implies it is period surely?

It sure would seem so to me! These Adam Henry's are just lowlife scumbags!
Posted By: Larry C Re: SA High Leaders Dagger? - 06/04/2010 11:21 AM
Crossguards are the first Dead giveaway I see.
Posted By: Terry Pullen Re: SA High Leaders Dagger? - 06/04/2010 09:05 PM
Here it is complete with grip.



Posted By: lloyd Re: SA High Leaders Dagger? - 06/04/2010 09:05 PM
Well, I wrote this to the seller last night:

Dear colt73,

Do you guarantee this to be original WWII?

Thanks!


- daggerdenman


He answered as follows:

Sorry, No. I feel some parts are but the blade may be post War from what i am hearing. Also could be a high end Museum Copy. It is NOT some cheap Spanish or Chinese copy. Check out results from Greg Martins March 2010 Auction where there are a couple similar.

Regards, Tim


So, there you have it right from the seller!
(I have NO idea who Greg Martins is, anyone know?)
Posted By: anonymous 123 Re: SA High Leaders Dagger? - 06/04/2010 09:37 PM
Greg Martin is a California Auction house that generally specializes in firearms auctions. They'll sell just about anything including 3rd Reich items. However; Based upon my observations in the past, they are essentially clueless inre. to the 3rd Reich items they sell and I expect they rely on the descriptions provided by the consignors.
IMO: I don't see anything about this dagger pictured above that looks period.
Jim
Posted By: wes_143 Re: SA High Leaders Dagger? - 06/04/2010 09:50 PM
I have noticed that he hasent posted any of our questions on the listing. shows he dont care, as long as the price keeps going up he's staying quiet.
Posted By: lloyd Re: SA High Leaders Dagger? - 06/04/2010 11:40 PM
quote:
Originally posted by wes_143:
I have noticed that he hasent posted any of our questions on the listing. shows he dont care, as long as the price keeps going up he's staying quiet.

Yeah Wes, he will take ALL he can and run...back into his slime pit!

There have ALWAYS been such hucksters out there. I myself was bitten several times, not on eBan however!
Posted By: mongobongo Re: SA High Leaders Dagger? - 06/07/2010 08:39 AM
How much did it go for in the end?
Posted By: wes_143 Re: SA High Leaders Dagger? - 06/07/2010 03:52 PM
It looks like ebay canceld the auction,but i'am sure deals were made outside of ebay and some poor soul is out some hard earned cash.
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