I yust wont to know if this marker is legit?

Hello Rogi, yes, that maker-mark is fine! As far as I know that is the only mark to use "SS" instead of the "lightening-bolt" runes. Regards, Leipzig

nice picture & very nice blade :-)

Same mark as mine .Do a search and you will find this M/M .Show the rest of the dagger if you can.

Thanks for eplanation guys, i apriciate that !!!

Aditional photos as you requested Martin!

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That is a beauty. Mark

Nice dagger ,thanks for the photo's.You will find this dagger with a mix of nickle silver and plated fittings.Mine has NS fittings and the lower scabbard fitting is plated ? Just wish we could come up with a M/M

Very nice! Thanks for the photos.

Good and nice conditioned dagger. Maker seen quite frequently.

Hallo again ! First i wish you all a very happy collecting new year 2009 !!!

Second i have a help request for you guys, specialy for SS daggers collectors ! I have yust recently payed forum member Gottlieb for this SS dagger and now i am waithing for dagger to come but the problem is that he send it the dagger it 3 seperate packages, first scabard, second the blade and last one the handel and crossguards, my problem is how shud i put it back together without cosing any damage to the dagger ? I have heard from one collector that if you tightened the pommel nut to much it coud cose the crack on the wood handel and there are other problems that coud be dane if you asembel the dagger wrongly, so do you have any advise how shud i do that without cosing any damage to this beoutifull SS dagger ?

Thank you!

quote:

Originally posted by Rogi:
Hallo again ! First i wish you all a very happy collecting new year 2009 !!!

Second i have a help request for you guys, specialy for SS daggers collectors ! I have yust recently payed forum member Gottlieb for this SS dagger and now i am waithing for dagger to come but the problem is that he send it the dagger it 3 seperate packages, first scabard, second the blade and last one the handel and crossguards, my problem is how shud i put it back together without cosing any damage to the dagger ? I have heard from one collector that if you tightened the pommel nut to much it coud cose the crack on the wood handel and there are other problems that coud be dane if you asembel the dagger wrongly, so do you have any advise how shud i do that without cosing any damage to this beoutifull SS dagger ?

Thank you!

Sent in parts ? Why ?
Do you ask for that ?

Gottlieb answerd that he have to send the dagger in 3 seperate packages becourse of Polish custume, he stated that its not alaut to shipp out of Poland antic objects and SS dagger is considerd antic, i have no reson not to belive him! I am yust worryed how to put the dagger back together not to ruin anything!!!

quote:

Originally posted by Rogi:
Gottlieb answerd that he have to send the dagger in 3 seperate packages becourse of Polish custume, he stated that its not alaut to shipp out of Poland antic objects and SS dagger is considerd antic, i have no reson not to belive him! I am yust worryed how to put the dagger back together not to ruin anything!!!

Its very easy to put this together. Just be careful and not overtight the nut.
You have to look and zoom up the pics you have here of the SS dagger. Looking for marks on the crossguard / upper/ lower for correct mounting if you understand what i mean ?

I do not like daggers have been apart sorry.
Just my opinions

Good Luck

Thanks for the input, i totaly agree with you i also dont like daggers which were taken apart but i like this SS dagger and thats why i acepted this way of shippment !!! I truly hope that all will end up O.K and that i will receve all 3 packages and manage to put the dagger back together without any problems!

Dear Rogi,

You can always send it back to me and I will put it back together for You

Of course just jokeing.

Anyway Havent You guys heard about stupid law regulations here in Poland - customs regulations. If yes then You will get my drift why in three separate insured packets...

Putting back this dagger is easier than operating a pen.

I wish You Happy New Year 2009.

Just don't use the pliers to screw it tight

quote:

Originally posted by 777:
Just don't use the pliers to screw it tight

Gottlieb, i will use this forum to thank you once again for this realy god deal on original SS dagger i always wished for!!!

I yust wish that the dagger will stay the same as it is on this photos after i will put it back together, becourse its realy beoutifull original SS dagger and i dont wont to ruin in any way!



P.S
I hope that all of you guys hade some sirius partys going on while waithing for new year 2009, i stayed out in slovin capitol where it was freezen coled and i was thinking how must german solders feald in Russia wearing summer uniforms in minus 30 !?

Hallo again ! I have to teal you that i yust get the SS dagger and i already put it together and its outstanding, the same as one photos posted above, i love it, my very first original SS dagger and for that i have to thank you my new collector frend Piotr alias Gottlieb who sold me this dagger for realy god price much below the dealers prices and without his help i simply wodnt afort to buy an original SS dagger for my collection, they are yust to expensive, so my dear Piotr, thank again, i realy love this dagger, it looks even better when you have it on your hands !!!

Thank you all for your answers regarding my new original SS dagger!!!

I have some nice original SS items, like SS M42 helmet, restored LAH EM uniform, several original SS EM buckles ( Overhoff ) and 1 SS officers buckle also late Overhoff, white camo helmet which was used by Wiking SS divison in Russia, SS/Police NCO degan, etc, but without original SS dagger you yust dasent have an SS collection, wheal now i have it !!!!

As of late there has been trade and buying between members.Nice to see this happening as to me this is what collecting is about.

enjoy it Rogi , I HOPE it will present itself nicely in your collection,

Nice to hear ROGI. Congrats a lot
Always great with the first SS daggers into collection.
I remember my first M 36 chain dagger when i drive to look at it .
I dont regret that deal.
Regards LH

Thanks for nice toths guys, its nice that there are steal some deals among collectors where is not everything yust abouth money, Gottlieb coud sale this SS dagger for much more here on GDC but insted he sale it to me for much lese simply becourse he promist me a deal and i will amways be graitfull for that and houpfully one time i coud repay him with some other militaria he wished, so that is the real collecting pal for me and i dont even know him in person!

quote:

Originally posted by Gottlieb:
nice picture & very nice blade :-)

GOTTLIEB
Have you read this topic ?
Was this sales final and true ?


http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/forums/showthread.php?p...posted=1#post3044380

And to all you premium members:
http://daggers.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/9020090724/m/7410063785

quote:

Originally posted by LH 600:

quote:

Originally posted by Gottlieb:
nice picture & very nice blade :-)

GOTTLIEB
Have you read this topic ?
Was this sales final and true ?
I met with gotllieb in person a few days ago, and i can tell you that this dagger was sold to rogi, I also wanted to buy the dagger, but rogi was first

http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/forums/showthread.php?p...posted=1#post3044380

It's not Gottlieb (I dealt many times with and he's 100% O.K.) who's the person in question, just to make it clear.

I have bought several items from forum members here on GDC and i have also payed for items with from my bank acount and i can only say that my name is not Matjaz Fritz but Igor Plev?ak and i live in the same country as Fritz that is SLOVENIA and i belive i was banned from Walhala only becourse i dare to question JR Honor ring and that was it! I belive there is some sort of compyuter ID if my original ID which i use when i pay the items i order in the bank is not enugh!!! I dont owe no one any money all items i receved from forum members were payed, so what is the problem? LH i belive i have treted you with respect when you yoin the Helmet Walhala forum, so i dont know why you are now acting like this? Regarding Walhala i can only add that i was member there for quit some time and i have posted daily and if there woud be anything wrong with me i belive i woud be banned sunner, but some of you know everything dont you!?

quote:

Originally posted by 777:
It's not Gottlieb (I dealt many times with and he's 100% O.K.) who's the person in question, just to make it clear.

YES 777.
Its the person in question.
But Gottlieb knows for sure the account and name he sent the SS dagger too ?
Can you reply Gottlieb ?

Whenever I hear that someone is from Slovenia, for some strange reason, I always have my friend Mathias Fritz in mind.

quote:

Originally posted by Rogi:
I have bought several items from forum members here on GDC and i have also payed for items with from my bank acount and i can only say that my name is not Matjaz Fritz but Igor Plev?ak and i live in the same country as Fritz that is SLOVENIA and i belive i was banned from Walhala only becourse i dare to question JR Honor ring and that was it! I belive there is some sort of compyuter ID if my original ID which i use when i pay the items i order in the bank is not enugh!!! I dont owe no one any money all items i receved from forum members were payed, so what is the problem? LH i belive i have treted you with respect when you yoin the Helmet Walhala forum, so i dont know why you are now acting like this? Regarding Walhala i can only add that i was member there for quit some time and i have posted daily and if there woud be anything wrong with me i belive i woud be banned sunner, but some of you know everything dont you!?

What about the Vinnies restored M42 SD ss helmet?

Rogi, From a reliable source I've heard some disturbing information on you. That you've been involved in distributing Czech made daggers into the collecting community. I think things are starting to add up a bit.

Big Brother is watching you Rogi !
Your time has come up, you'll need some pretty
good arguments.

This guy who calls himself Rogi and countless other names and e mail address he has is a complete and utter waste of space,and so full of false promises.Won't bore you with the details but be careful doing bussiness with this plonker.

Heres a thought:
.. now that the "SS" collection is complete, WHY NOT...SELL? and start ALL OVER.....

Some answers,
first JR, i also heard some disturbing news abouth that you hade some very questonable honor ring that was ither superfake or Honor ring isued to Dr.Frank ( who is steal alife and lives in Germany ) whos Honor Ring and some other personal belongigs ( his SS memorabilia )was stolen from his home by some weal nown US collecor and writher,
second Mr. Steve Tedds i intend to buy your SA dagger and i woud but since it was more atemting for me to buy original SS dagger from Gottlieb i radder buy that one, i have also bought couple of months ago a police bayo from forum member Hermann ( aka Herr Mann ) and he can confirm whit hum he made this deal and that everything was O.K,
third,
i have exchenged e mails with Vinnie regarding his restored SS helmet and i intend to buy it for a frend of mine but that is another story and hade nothing to do with GDC or any of you guys!!!
I realy dont know why are you all over me, i belive it is winter time and nothing going on and you diside to play a little game with me !
If you think that i have something to explain to any of you, please i am listening!!!

And, in a most amazing coincidence, rogi's IP traces back to "1420 Trbovlje in Slovenia". Exactly the same as Matthias Fritz and a "sara" who Matthias explained as his wife.

Dave

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Originally posted by Dave Hohaus:
And, in a most amazing coincidence, rogi's IP traces back to "1420 Trbovlje in Slovenia". Exactly the same as Matthias Fritz and a "sara" who Matthias explained as his wife.

Dave

Is it the same IP Dave, as Matthias Fritz have before ?

LH

Rogi + Demien + oskar66 + Kunz25 = Matthias Fritz.
Matthias, I know a nice Dutch Helmet site you should check out...lots of primo camos for you and your Slovakian brethren.
http://tcc.novosite.nl/

No, not same IP, but goes back to same place. New computer / new internet service / new internet cafe. Who knows ? Same town and same language in my opinion.

Dave

Mr. Hohaus!

Yes i live in Trbovlje which is one of bigger slovin towns and yes i know Fritz in person and i even hade some deals with him in the past ( amasingly they were all god ) and i also know some other slovin collectors and evropian collectors that i meat in the past! I have no bad intentions what so ever on this forum or any other forums, expet to took abouth collecting 3 Raich items which is my maine hooby / obsesion as my girlfrend says, any way i dont know what i did wrong here on GDC exept posting some remarck which clearly ofendind JR and i belive that was the maine reson that this "which hunt" started, its true i dont have such big collection as some of you have, specialy JR but i think that i have some nolege abouth 3 Raich militaria which i get during my time spent with this splendid items. I belive that i didnt decive any one, exept perhaps Mr, Tedds whom i garantied that i will bought his SA dagger but unfortunaly things whent wrong and i simply cudnt aforth to buy two daggers in such short period and for that i cincirly apologise to Mr. Tedds !
I understand now that my staying on this fine forum isnt welcome and have no intentions to post any more and i am realy sorry that things turn this way!
I hope that i didnt make to much speling erors since i dont use compyuter translator!

Best wishes to you all!

Igor Plev?ak

Dear collectors, please forgive me my errors but I write from my iphone. Because I spend right now my winter vacation I have no time to trace all news here on gd.com.
The only think I can do is to assure You that sale of my former ss dager was final. I get paid and the dagger was delivered. I personally find Rogi as a honest person. I'm not allowed to publish any details of this deal so please do not ask me any questions. Now I go to sleep because I have tommorrow a lot to do with my snowboard.

Regards
Gottlieb

quote:

Originally posted by Gottlieb:

I'm not allowed to publish any details of this deal so please do not ask me any questions.

Regards
Gottlieb

My final question is : Do you ship to Igor Plev?ak ? or another name in Slovenia ?
That is not secret to tell, since Igor have his name in his own post!

That explain much for all collectors here on GDC, Gottlieb.

..and the beat goes on...

Dear LH600,

Please ask Igor where the dagger was delivered. I do not want to be involved into this mess. My relatin up to now with Igor is correct and I want ot to be so.

Gottlieb

quote:

Originally posted by Gottlieb:
Dear LH600,

Please ask Igor where the dagger was delivered. I do not want to be involved into this mess. My relatin up to now with Igor is correct and I want ot to be so.

Gottlieb

Im finished with the posting in this tread !
I have found out one thing.......for sure.

Hey, buddy, seems like you're overreacting. If Gottlieb did a succesful deal with rogi/mathias fritz, whatever, and the deal was done even "outside" the GDC, then why the hell should he give names and adresses to anybody? Would you like all the institutions and private persons that know your name and adress to inform someone about them? Gottlieb is trying to be correct, because someone was correct with him - bought the dagger and paid for it, that's it. Never heard about privacy policy? I am (I think) the first person who noticed the strange "slovenian connections" and asked Rogi if he knew Mathias Fritz , but jumping on Gottlieb is not fair.
We have enough control in todays "democrazy".

quote:

Originally posted by LH 600:

quote:

Originally posted by Gottlieb:
Dear LH600,

Please ask Igor where the dagger was delivered. I do not want to be involved into this mess. My relatin up to now with Igor is correct and I want ot to be so.

Gottlieb

Im finished with the posting in this tread !
I have found out one thing.......for sure.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by 777:
Hey, buddy, seems like you're overreacting. If Gottlieb did a succesful deal with rogi/mathias fritz, whatever, and the deal was done even "outside" the GDC, then why the hell should he give names and adresses to anybody? Would you like all the institutions and private persons that know your name and adress to inform someone about them? Gottlieb is trying to be correct, because someone was correct with him - bought the dagger and paid for it, that's it. Never heard about privacy policy? I am (I think) the first person who noticed the strange "slovenian connections" and asked Rogi if he knew Mathias Fritz , but jumping on Gottlieb is not fair.
We have enough control in todays "democrazy".[QUOTE]


1- I dont ask for names 777. The name is already there. I just want a confirm from Gottlieb.

2- I just want Gottlieb confirm what i ask about. That is the case ? !

3- Im not judging Gottlieb. ( sorry for offending)

4- The world is free and i feel i have rigth to post here in the tread about "Frauds" all should be aware off.

5- If Gottlieb confirm yes or NO we all know for sure ROGI is the man we are talking about.

6- You talk about control ? if we dont can discuss frauds and other bad scammers here ,some day all of us fall into the "trap" one day.

I hope other forum members understand me.

If Dave Hohaus mean i have cross the line here in this discussion.....just delete my account. ( and take care of the bad guys)



All the best LH 600

Hi all>>>>in my opinion, if Gottlieb had a successful deal with Rogi than we can trust Rogi with no problems >>i do not see the point of argument here. It is very easy to accuse a person of something. what is wrong if Rogi is from the same country as Fritz >>i am sure Gottlieb looked at Rogi's email before stating he had deals with him.....

quote:

Originally posted by JR:
Rogi, From a reliable source I've heard some disturbing information on you. That you've been involved in distributing Czech made daggers into the collecting community. I think things are starting to add up a bit.

Dear Aleksandr !
Have you missed out this posting ?

No offence LH 600, no reason to delete your account. I jump off this topic, it goes to personal between us "good guys" because of one "bad guy".
We all die in the end anyway

If Dave Hohaus mean i have cross the line here in this discussion.....just delete my account. ( and take care of the bad guys)

All the best LH 600


Jarle, I don't think that you have crossed the line.
You haven't done anything wrong except to ask some important questions.
We all know what happened with Mathias and we also know that there are many frauds going on right now. A serious collector must be extremelly careful nowadays with who he's dealing with.
You also have to remember that those "thiefs and con artists" are becoming even smarter as we speak.
I've heard too many horror stories concerning this hobby and it kills it.
I have nothing against the Polish or Slovenian people, I've been to those countries 2 years ago and they are among the nicest people on earth.
Still, most of the frauds comes from the ex-Eastern bloc countries and we all know why ?

The similarities are also very suspicious to me but if the deal went through well between these two people, then, just fine with me.

Jarle only tried to help the new collectors entering the hobby and to make them aware than many frauds are happening on a day to day basis.

I think it is time to put the subject to rest for now.

Amen to that!

Pat, Jarle you have made very good points here and it is simply a waste of time to keep rehashing the same things.

Dave, please just shut this down.

John

OK.

Dave