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Wotan, are you saying that you would expect to see this mark on
a silver hilted sword used by the SS similar to the Navy acceptance stamps?
Hello BAMA. No, because these lionhead sabers (and the certain silver dovehead sabers as Barry Brown has shown us a wonderful nice one) usually were delivered through private channels like uniform stores or direct manufacturer channels. Regards,
wotan, gd.c-b#105
"Never look for sqare eggs" as a late owner of an original FHH-dagger used to say.
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Thank you Wotan, it is my belief the stamp should not be there and just wanted to make sure I understood you.
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Personally I would be careful with using the word never. About 5 years ago or so there was a lion head saber on the forum with what appeared to be a period cast in place set of Sigrunen on the langet, an etched blade along with the SS Kulturzeichen on the hilt that appeared to be an old stamping. And other than some aging - it seemed to be untouched. With the often repeated old collectors tale of the SS Kulturzeichen being Diebitsch's "personal mark", "trademark - whatever" in a rather lengthy discussion elsewhere having no discernible basis in TR period evidence/publications. Best Regards, Fred
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get a load of the silver "ss" sword on ebay dmzantiques
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get a load of the silver "ss" sword on ebay dmzantiques ????????? No sword listed or in closed auctions..
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it had the applied ss runes and a mein eher heist treue etched on the blade...
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I am very sorry for bringing this thread back to the top.....fantastic read here by the way......But I see on a "big guy" dealer's site a "Silver hilted lionhead with green eyes". The dealer does not attribute this sword to anything like the SS or customs...but the price has me scratching my head, it's only $2100.00, that's pretty cheap for one of these....if it's real, right? this sword is not maker marked or marked in any other way. So what the heck could it be if not SS or customs? This is a pretty "high ranking" dealer that has a great reputation.....at 2100.00 this is within my grasp but after reading this thread....I don't know? any thoughts from anybody?
Patrick
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What is unusual about this sword is the quillion has a Lionhead which is seldom seen on Nazi era Lionshead swords. That said this sword is a beauty.
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Yup, it's a gorgeous sword....but what the heck is it? SS, customs, etc..? Why couldn't somebody buy this sword and find an early SS knot to tie on it and BOOM Bob's your uncle...instant SS sword! But would it be correct? that what I'm trying to figure out.....I don't want to buy something for that type of money only having to "explain" what it is later on down the road if the need to sell ever came up.....
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Buy a SS nco degen and be a ton happier. Enough purported ss stuff. Otherwise spend 300 on a nice plain silver army and put a knot on it. You will be happier .Tell visitors your uncle gave it to you. 
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With the pictures here so far - what is it? A craft store silver in a bottle "plating", solid silver or ..........? Are the eyes replacements? With the low quality images here IMO leaving a lot of questions unanswered. Best Regards, Fred
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That's an Emil Voos pattern and pretty hard to find!!
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