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I have a SA Dagger that has an engraving on the top part of the scabbard. I think it is the soldiers name with the following


vTrupp iii

R/4 130


If anyone can help, please do.

Rick,

any close-up of it?
doesn't sounds like a name.
Gerd

Here it is. Thanks for the help

I think that is a shooting prize

I was wondering that. Besten=best, schutzen=shooter,gunner. Do you think it is the 130th division, 4th regiment?

The best shot
of Troop III
4th Sturm ?

I do think that that is the translation and not the owners name.

Mark

You're right Dave.

It's a prize for the best "gunner" of this unit.

Sehr Gut Dave

"The best gunner of Troop III"

Gerd

Thanks a lot guys. Do you see these often?

What do you think the R/4 130 means? Fourth Regt of the 130th Division?

Rick, this is not a military dagger.It is an SA dagger, a paramilitary force of the NSDAP.The winner of this shooting prize was in a reserve SA regiment.It's been a while, but when the 'R' is on one side of the line, it is a reserve Sturm, and when it is on the other side, it is a reserve standarte.

So.. it is ? (whatever that is in front of ) besten schutzen v.truppe III 4/R.130

I believe it is a 'D' so we would have ..

D(der or the..) Besten (best) schutzen (shot)
v.(vom, or from) Truppe (troop) III, 4th sturm of (R. reserve) standarte 130

Are they common? Yes and no..unfortunately we see many more of these faked than real, so err on the side of caution..

thank you for all your help. I'm new to this, so I'm not sure what to ask. I own this one, it was given to me about 10 years ago by my brother. I don't know where he got it. I'm just trying to figure out what I have before I go and sell it. I have a post under "SS Dagger", or they may have moved it to "SA Dagger" with more pics asking some opinions on this. If you want to see, you can check it out there. Thank you all for the info.