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#333969 - 12/12/17 08:18 AM RZM 1053/39 for opinion
MarcGB Offline


Registered: 07/22/17
Posts: 94
Loc: Barcelona - Catalonia
Hi colleagues, I would really appreciate yur feedback about this one...

Thanks a lot in advance !

Kind regards,

Marc








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#333972 - 12/12/17 10:58 AM Re: RZM 1053/39 for opinion [Re: MarcGB]
Patrick69 Offline



Registered: 08/29/16
Posts: 127
Loc: Victorville, CA
The nicks all around the eagle would give me pause. Plus I don't like the RZM/maker marks not being center...could be just a "Monday morning" dagger, but I'm no expert. I would pass.

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#333987 - 12/12/17 07:09 PM Re: RZM 1053/39 for opinion [Re: Patrick69]
Larry C Offline



Registered: 10/27/09
Posts: 1648
Loc: Philadelphia
Originally Posted By: Patrick69
The nicks all around the eagle would give me pause. Plus I don't like the RZM/maker marks not being center...could be just a "Monday morning" dagger, but I'm no expert. I would pass.


A Monday morning of the most recent time frame I would say.
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#333990 - 12/12/17 09:54 PM Re: RZM 1053/39 for opinion [Re: Larry C]
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Registered: 08/24/01
Posts: 2032
Loc: Ohio, USA
Wow, that grip eagle is terrible and runes button almost as bad. Run away...
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#333993 - 12/13/17 04:59 AM Re: RZM 1053/39 for opinion [Re: vintagetimenow]
MarcGB Offline


Registered: 07/22/17
Posts: 94
Loc: Barcelona - Catalonia
Originally Posted By: vintagetimenow
Wow, that grip eagle is terrible and runes button almost as bad. Run away...


Hi Vintage, First of all, thanks for your time.

I raised this dagger to your attention because of a few things that do not match with the standards I would expect to see here.

I agree the scratches around the bird may be an issue, but the bird itself looks (IMHO) good to me (same one here in post #29: http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/forums/showthread.php?t=194473&page=34).

I would really appreciate any comment that would lead me to learn, identify what is wrong in this piece (what's not period, what is/is not legit, parts, etc.).

Coments like xxx looks horrible are ok and of course appreciated in order not to keep this piece, but something else would be much appreciated.

Thank you all endeed for your attention !!!

Have a nice day,

Marc

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#333999 - 12/13/17 05:38 PM Re: RZM 1053/39 for opinion [Re: MarcGB]
Patrick69 Offline



Registered: 08/29/16
Posts: 127
Loc: Victorville, CA
What I have learned the last couple of years in this great hobby is if you have ANY questions on an object...walk away.....If you buy something like this, you will always have these nagging questions in the back of your mind. I am a novice when it comes to SS daggers and was almost burned on one. There are many red flags with this piece. The nicks and gouges(sp?) around the eagle means it has been messed with before...that right there is enough to walk away. As said above, the SS button does not look right, looks to have also been messed with as far as placement. I'm sure this dagger judging by condition is about $1500-2000, that's too much to spend on something that is questionable. Walk away from it my friend.

Good luck, Patrick

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#334001 - 12/13/17 06:26 PM Re: RZM 1053/39 for opinion [Re: Patrick69]
MarcGB Offline


Registered: 07/22/17
Posts: 94
Loc: Barcelona - Catalonia
Thanks Patrick for your comments.

Totaly agree with you !!!

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#334005 - 12/13/17 09:05 PM Re: RZM 1053/39 for opinion [Re: MarcGB]
Dave Offline



Registered: 09/09/00
Posts: 13209
Loc: Southeast
Patrick is 100% correct.

If you have any hesitation ... walk away. That hesitation won't go away if you buy it, it will only grow.

Dave

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#334009 - 12/14/17 04:45 AM Re: RZM 1053/39 for opinion [Re: Dave]
MarcGB Offline


Registered: 07/22/17
Posts: 94
Loc: Barcelona - Catalonia
Thanks Dave for your advice !

100% agree with both of you.

Best,

Marc

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#334108 - 12/25/17 01:24 PM Re: RZM 1053/39 for opinion [Re: MarcGB]
ETF Offline



Registered: 01/20/11
Posts: 689
Loc: New Hampshire
Marc....a concern that many collectors have is posting information publickly that helps the forgers produce better fakes.

Private conversations keep the information between honest collectors.

A book I would recommend on SS daggers if you don't already have it is 'Exploring The Dresss Daggers and Swords of the German SS' by Thomas T. Whittmann.

I wish you and All of or fellow forum memmbers a Very Merry Christmas.

Ed


Edited by ETF (12/25/17 01:25 PM)

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