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#333191 - 11/14/17 04:26 PM German saber "WEYERSBERG KIRSGHBAUM & CIE"
Vassago Offline


Registered: 12/02/10
Posts: 406
Loc: Espaņa
Hello colleagues, a salesman showed me this German saber and which says it is from the First World War, by the manufacturer "WEYERSBERG KIRSGHBAUM & CIE, SOLINGEN" is known to be of German origin, but I would like to know your opinions about it, if you could give some more information about this piece, to what period and army it corresponds and if you see it a good piece for a collection and if you see a red flag, I appreciate your comments and help.








Thanks for your attention.

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#333193 - 11/14/17 08:47 PM Re: German saber "WEYERSBERG KIRSGHBAUM & CIE" [Re: Vassago]
Texasuberalles Offline


Registered: 03/17/01
Posts: 879
Loc: Texas, of course!
It's a heavy cavalry saber. WW1 or so.
Probably has the year of manufacture on the spine
of the blade near the handguard.

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#333199 - 11/15/17 11:34 AM German saber "WEYERSBERG KIRSGHBAUM & CIE" [Re: Texasuberalles]
Vassago Offline


Registered: 12/02/10
Posts: 406
Loc: Espaņa
Thanks for your reply Texasuberalles, I will ask the seller about the year of manufacturer that you indicate, more or less what should be the year of manufacture?

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#333206 - 11/15/17 02:15 PM Re: German saber "WEYERSBERG KIRSGHBAUM & CIE" [Re: Vassago]
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Loc: Texas, of course!
WW1 or shortly before.

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#333210 - 11/15/17 04:22 PM German saber "WEYERSBERG KIRSGHBAUM & CIE" [Re: Texasuberalles]
Vassago Offline


Registered: 12/02/10
Posts: 406
Loc: Espaņa
Thank you very much Texasuberalles, your answers have helped me to learn a little more about this piece.

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#333215 - 11/16/17 01:22 AM Re: German saber "WEYERSBERG KIRSGHBAUM & CIE" [Re: Vassago]
Fred Prinz - FP Offline


Registered: 12/28/01
Posts: 4219
Loc: (formerly) Northridge, Califor...
Nice saber. smile Most likely pre-WW 1/wartime from what I'm seeing it appears to be a Saxon pattern EM saber for the horse mounted artillery. Does it have any other markings on it than the maker's marking? Best Regards, Fred

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#333220 - 11/16/17 08:32 AM German saber "WEYERSBERG KIRSGHBAUM & CIE" [Re: Fred Prinz - FP]
Vassago Offline


Registered: 12/02/10
Posts: 406
Loc: Espaņa
Thanks Fred Prinz - FP for your answer, I have asked the seller if he can also see the year of manufacture in the backbone of the blade near the handguard as I commented Texasuberalles as well as other brands but I still have not received a response from the seller . Can this saber be said to be German or Prussian? Which definition would be more correct?

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#333225 - 11/16/17 01:44 PM Re: German saber "WEYERSBERG KIRSGHBAUM & CIE" [Re: Vassago]
Fred Prinz - FP Offline


Registered: 12/28/01
Posts: 4219
Loc: (formerly) Northridge, Califor...
Originally Posted By: Vassago
Thanks Fred Prinz - FP for your answer, I have asked the seller if he can also see the year of manufacture in the backbone of the blade near the handguard as I commented Texasuberalles as well as other brands but I still have not received a response from the seller . Can this saber be said to be German or Prussian? Which definition would be more correct?

Saxony was one of the larger German states that made up Germany in the Imperial era. Prussia was the largest, there was also Bavaria, Wurttemberg the smaller states etc. With some of the German states following Prussia's example in swords, or not instead using their own patterns. And that being the case here because the Prussian artillery saber is similar but different (the markings themselves are another variable). That said, German Artilleriesabel IMO would be the more accurate description.

PS: Because its Army was smaller the Saxon swords overall are harder to find. Best Regards, Fred

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#333228 - 11/16/17 02:41 PM German saber "WEYERSBERG KIRSGHBAUM & CIE" [Re: Fred Prinz - FP]
Vassago Offline


Registered: 12/02/10
Posts: 406
Loc: Espaņa
Every day I learn more in this great forum, many thanks for your clarifications.

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#333239 - Yesterday at 11:47 AM German saber "WEYERSBERG KIRSGHBAUM & CIE" [Re: Fred Prinz - FP]
Vassago Offline


Registered: 12/02/10
Posts: 406
Loc: Espaņa
Originally Posted By: Fred Prinz - FP
Nice saber. smile Most likely pre-WW 1/wartime from what I'm seeing it appears to be a Saxon pattern EM saber for the horse mounted artillery. Does it have any other markings on it than the maker's marking? Best Regards, Fred



Fred Prinz - FP the seller has just answered me that in addition to the brands of manufacturer has a crown and the letters RC, I do not know if that can tell you something more of the piece, also tell him if he kept the year of its manufacture in the thorn dorsal of the blade near the handguard and has told me that it has no mark there of any year.

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#333262 - Today at 01:03 PM Re: German saber "WEYERSBERG KIRSGHBAUM & CIE" [Re: Vassago]
Fred Prinz - FP Offline


Registered: 12/28/01
Posts: 4219
Loc: (formerly) Northridge, Califor...
Originally Posted By: Vassago
Fred Prinz - FP the seller has just answered me that in addition to the brands of manufacturer has a crown and the letters RC, I do not know if that can tell you something more of the piece, also tell him if he kept the year of its manufacture in the thorn dorsal of the blade near the handguard and has told me that it has no mark there of any year.

Typical I think of Saxon military purchase/issue swords some had markings more like the Prussian ones with dates etc. Others did not. In any case, it appears to be a legitimate period German Army saber from the Imperial era that is not that easy to find. Best Regards, Fred

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