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#321897 - 10/03/16 12:55 PM Re: Tools of the Trade [?] [Re: Mike (aka Byzanti)]
Duzig Online


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Byzanti,
Would love to see those pics & thanks again for that information. I have seen a couple of documentaries on the history channel about that era and as you say, the NY police were fighting other police etc. If my memory serves me correct I thought I heard on one of these shows that out of the gangs came the fire departments more or less. Interesting period in history for sure. Lots of interesting history in New York.
thanks again
Bill

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#324051 - 12/03/16 09:34 AM Re: Tools of the Trade [?] [Re: Duzig]
Gaspare Online


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was by my 'safe house'.. Had this case a long time and have had a bunch of different things in it...


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#324054 - 12/03/16 09:36 AM Re: Tools of the Trade [?] [Re: Gaspare]
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I know your all expecting a Tommygun,,,but they are a little scarce here in NY!! These,,guess they have some uses whistle


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#324057 - 12/03/16 10:24 AM Re: Tools of the Trade [?] [Re: Gaspare]
Mike (aka Byzanti) Online


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Loc: US of A
Nice meathook

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#324064 - 12/03/16 11:05 AM Re: Tools of the Trade [?] [Re: Mike (aka Byzanti)]
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Cool smile
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My Name is Bob and I am a "RACE O HOLIC" AND "THE OLDER I GET THE FASTER I WAS"


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#329307 - 06/04/17 03:38 PM Re: Tools of the Trade [?] [Re: Redsled]
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While researching fighting rings, I stumbled across the "Apache" street gangs of Paris. During the Belle Époque (later 19th century) they used many "tools of the trade" (as pictured below) when ambushing their prey, the wealthy Parisians of the period.... a well to do man or woman would be well advised to carry a sword cane, a long/sharp hatpin, or perhaps a small and concealable pistol to defend themselves should they find one of these fellows in a back alley off of the boulevard... pronounced "Ah- PASH", these "Apaches" were so named after the antagonists of a James Fennimore Cooper novel of the period... they had impressive sets of combination gun/knives, brass knuckles, and of course some knuckledusters, which I will post in the ring forum. Here is a period poster advising the well to do of the gang members favorite tools of the trade (btw- if any one can find me this poster of the period... I will buy it!!) courtesy of englishhistoryauthors.blogspot.com, its entitled "How they Kill You" ...


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#329308 - 06/04/17 03:40 PM Re: Tools of the Trade [?] [Re: Mike (aka Byzanti)]
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Also for a bit of an eye opener- google "danse Apache" and see what comes up- this was a popular tandem dance inspired by the "Apache" of the Parisian back alleys...

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#329340 - 06/07/17 10:30 AM Re: Tools of the Trade [?] [Re: Mike (aka Byzanti)]
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Mike,,,that IS one cool poster.. I'd love one too,,bet they are super hard to find and expensive!

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#333147 - 11/12/17 11:37 PM Re: Tools of the Trade [?] [Re: Gaspare]
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just saw a pretty cool old advert for a TOTT:


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#333148 - 11/12/17 11:41 PM Re: Tools of the Trade [?] [Re: Gaspare]
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and this.. Don't know what to say about this,,other than,,,every guy should have one! grin wink


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#333150 - 11/13/17 07:43 AM Re: Tools of the Trade [?] [Re: Gaspare]
Mike (aka Byzanti) Online


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New definition of multi tool right there

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#333152 - 11/13/17 09:17 AM Re: Tools of the Trade [?] [Re: Mike (aka Byzanti)]
Dave Online


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Someone buggered up a valuable knife if that grip is real.

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#333164 - 11/13/17 05:28 PM Re: Tools of the Trade [?] [Re: Dave]
Gaspare Online


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they look to new to be authentic....


Anyone reading,,, I'm looking for these type for my collection.. Anyone with that would want to move them send me a email...,G.


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#333165 - 11/13/17 05:29 PM Re: Tools of the Trade [?] [Re: Gaspare]
Gaspare Online


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and of course would love to have these,,,and, the NYC type shown previously...


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#333188 - 11/14/17 03:31 PM Re: Tools of the Trade [?] [Re: Gaspare]
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about 18 years ago ahh maybe like 17 it was y2k time.yahoo had a old school forum called the "brass knuckles collector club or forum" yahoo shut down the bulletin board type forums.far as i know. i stopped getting email updates but not sure when at.least 10 years ago for sure i bet even longer. some guys on that forum would cast runs of them and sell them. when i collected WWI stuff i scored a set of cast iron knucks on a buy along with some civil war encampment items from a family or rather the kid who was cashing out. knucks seem to sell fast.
Bret Van Sant

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#333189 - 11/14/17 03:41 PM Re: Tools of the Trade [?] [Re: cog-hammer]
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hope this works im bad at resizing


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#333190 - 11/14/17 03:43 PM Re: Tools of the Trade [?] [Re: cog-hammer]
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Posts: 1036
Loc: N.W. Minnesota
sorry for the sucky pic the skylight really makes it extra bright. those are the cast iron knucks

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#333197 - 11/15/17 09:51 AM Re: Tools of the Trade [?] [Re: cog-hammer]
Gaspare Online


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great shot! Those were cast from a old pair. They came out nice..

They reproduce the real old/espensive ones.. A collector told me that the originals fit the hand good,,and the copies and copies of copies usually are small and forget them fitting even a med large size hand..

Now something like these would be cool too!


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#333207 - 11/15/17 02:34 PM Re: Tools of the Trade [?] [Re: Gaspare]
Dave Online


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Gaspare,

Cool until you hit some dude and the pistol part went off by itself.

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