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#331998 - 09/23/17 02:11 PM 1st type Luftwaffe dagger by Holler
Janos Online


Registered: 04/14/05
Posts: 1254
Loc: Hungary
gents,
I would like to share with you a 1st type Luftwaffe dagger made by Holler I've purchased recently.
It comes with an aluminium chain hanger, the plated blade is marked "F.W. Holler Solingen".
For me it looks OK, but I need your opinion: is it OK or not?

Janos


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#331999 - 09/23/17 02:16 PM Re: 1st type Luftwaffe dagger by Holler [Re: Janos]
Janos Online


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Posts: 1254
Loc: Hungary
The swastika doesn't look well on the reverse side of the crossguard, probably because of wearing. What do you think?


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#332000 - 09/23/17 02:17 PM Re: 1st type Luftwaffe dagger by Holler [Re: Janos]
Janos Online


Registered: 04/14/05
Posts: 1254
Loc: Hungary
More photos.


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#332036 - 09/24/17 04:33 PM Re: 1st type Luftwaffe dagger by Holler [Re: Janos]
Kwakernaak Offline


Registered: 04/29/05
Posts: 579
Loc: Netherlands
Looks ok to me Janos.
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Peter Jan

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#332052 - 09/25/17 01:49 PM Re: 1st type Luftwaffe dagger by Holler [Re: Kwakernaak]
Patrick69 Online


Registered: 08/29/16
Posts: 116
Loc: Victorville, CA
Looks good Janos. A good example of a mid-period 1st luft.

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#332348 - 10/09/17 05:49 AM Re: 1st type Luftwaffe dagger by Holler [Re: Patrick69]
Janos Online


Registered: 04/14/05
Posts: 1254
Loc: Hungary
Guys,
thank you for your contribution.
Janos

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#332383 - 10/10/17 01:26 PM Re: 1st type Luftwaffe dagger by Holler [Re: Janos]
Fred Prinz - FP Offline


Registered: 12/28/01
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The chainset might be aluminum, but the aged appearance of the other fittings leads me to believe that it's probably late manufacture. Best Regards, Fred

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#332404 - 10/11/17 01:26 PM Re: 1st type Luftwaffe dagger by Holler [Re: Fred Prinz - FP]
Janos Online


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Posts: 1254
Loc: Hungary
Fred,
you are right: the chains are aluminum, and the other fittings are not. Over all: is it OK?
Janos

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#332406 - 10/11/17 02:04 PM Re: 1st type Luftwaffe dagger by Holler [Re: Janos]
Fred Prinz - FP Offline


Registered: 12/28/01
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Loc: (formerly) Northridge, Califor...
Originally Posted By: Janos
Fred,
you are right: the chains are aluminum, and the other fittings are not. Over all: is it OK?
Janos

Janos, I don't see a problem with this dagger, with my comment directed to the most probable time period when I think it was manufactured. Best Regards, Fred

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#332408 - 10/11/17 04:42 PM Re: 1st type Luftwaffe dagger by Holler [Re: Fred Prinz - FP]
Barry Brown Offline


Registered: 03/24/07
Posts: 327
Loc: UK
Here is a similar mid-period piece to yours, this one by Alcoso. Ali chain set and thicker scabbard throat than the early 1st Lufts.


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#332411 - 10/11/17 05:04 PM Re: 1st type Luftwaffe dagger by Holler [Re: Barry Brown]
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Registered: 03/24/07
Posts: 327
Loc: UK
Originally Posted By: Barry Brown
Here is a similar mid-period piece to yours, this one by Alcoso. Ali chain set and thicker scabbard throat than the early 1st Lufts.



Correction: thicker lower butt plate, not thicker throat.

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#332413 - 10/11/17 05:35 PM Re: 1st type Luftwaffe dagger by Holler [Re: Barry Brown]
Fred Prinz - FP Offline


Registered: 12/28/01
Posts: 4215
Loc: (formerly) Northridge, Califor...
Nickel silver, zinc, and then aluminum? From by perspective - aluminum which was needed by the Wehrmacht to build aircraft and other things that took precedence - is what prompted the switch to zinc from aluminum as a substitute for all sorts of products from not only Solingen, but from over all of Germany with insignia (etc. etc.) included as well. Believing that what I'm seeing is gray colored zinc peeking out from underneath the plating. Best Regards, Fred


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