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Missed ... #332371
10/10/17 07:18 AM
10/10/17 07:18 AM
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Europa
Seppi Offline OP
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Hello all ,

found 24 hours too late for this offer located at less than 100 km from home !

I am mad for this negligence , such an opportunity occurs only once a century :



please help ! I need the same ASAP ;-))

S+

Re: Missed ... [Re: Seppi] #332439
10/12/17 05:36 PM
10/12/17 05:36 PM
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Brussels, Belgium
Herman V. (aka Herr Mann) Offline
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The complete blade:

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"Het leven is een strijdtoneel!"
Re: Missed ... [Re: Herman V. (aka Herr Mann)] #332444
10/12/17 09:13 PM
10/12/17 09:13 PM
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Toronto ,Ontario, Canada
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One of the tuffies to obtain cheer, Ryan

Re: Missed ... [Re: sellick8302@rogers.com] #332453
10/13/17 09:09 AM
10/13/17 09:09 AM
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Southeast
Dave Online content
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Are you certain that trademark is correct? I cannot quite see all the details, but I know that it has been faked on other daggers. Look where the lines start and stop:

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Re: Missed ... [Re: Dave] #332456
10/13/17 06:44 PM
10/13/17 06:44 PM
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Brussels, Belgium
Herman V. (aka Herr Mann) Offline
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That is an excellent point, Dave!

Yes, there are good copies, but on these the lines of the king are WITHOUT interruptions.

This one is the exact twin (makers mark & positioning, grip wood, grip eagle & other dagger parts...) of my ground Rohm, which I have for over a decade.

Best regards,

Herman

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"Het leven is een strijdtoneel!"
Re: Missed ... [Re: Herman V. (aka Herr Mann)] #332465
10/14/17 11:49 AM
10/14/17 11:49 AM
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Europa
Seppi Offline OP
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Hello gents and thanks for your opinions ,

I am very disapointed by the comments having only been focused by forge's marks which were correct for this maker and the general

shape!

fakes are a formidable danger and a giant business .

then happy for having missed this "jewel" and thanks again to you .

S+

Re: Missed ... [Re: Seppi] #332705
10/28/17 05:09 AM
10/28/17 05:09 AM
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Europe
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I can't see the details eighter but I think we souldn't dismiss this dagger too fast. All other parts are original for sure and the blade looks pretty convincing to me as well.

Danny

Re: Missed ... [Re: dr73] #332707
10/28/17 07:10 AM
10/28/17 07:10 AM
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Barcelona - Catalonia
MarcGB Online content
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I see nothing incorrect in that trademark. What is exactly wrong? I've seen lots with non interrupted lines...

I'm very far from being an expert (light-years)... but still see nothing wrong with this piece.

Cheers!

Marc

Re: Missed ... [Re: MarcGB] #332708
10/28/17 08:09 AM
10/28/17 08:09 AM
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Brussels, Belgium
Herman V. (aka Herr Mann) Offline
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Marc, Danny,

There is absolutely nothing wrong with this SA-dagger: it is an 100% textbook SMF Rohm.

The copies have non interrupted lines in the "seated king" logo, low quality blades & inscriptions and mounted in original (but non SMF!) dagger parts: all very easy to spot when you hold such a piece in your hand and even via pictures.

See hereunder the fake blade and logo.

Best regards,

Herman

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Last edited by Herman V. (aka Herr Mann); 10/28/17 08:16 AM.

"Het leven is een strijdtoneel!"
Re: Missed ... [Re: Herman V. (aka Herr Mann)] #332717
10/28/17 01:55 PM
10/28/17 01:55 PM
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Barcelona - Catalonia
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Thanks a lot for your explanations Herman. Really appreciate.

Best wishes,

Marc


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