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#332371 - 10/10/17 07:18 AM Missed ...
Seppi Offline

Registered: 03/07/15
Posts: 61
Loc: Europa
Hello all ,

found 24 hours too late for this offer located at less than 100 km from home !

I am mad for this negligence , such an opportunity occurs only once a century :

please help ! I need the same ASAP ;-))


#332439 - 10/12/17 05:36 PM Re: Missed ... [Re: Seppi]
Herman V. (aka Herr Mann) Offline

Registered: 05/24/04
Posts: 5100
Loc: Brussels, Belgium
The complete blade:


"Het leven is een strijdtoneel!"

#332444 - 10/12/17 09:13 PM Re: Missed ... [Re: Herman V. (aka Herr Mann)] Offline

Registered: 08/25/01
Posts: 3491
Loc: Toronto ,Ontario, Canada
One of the tuffies to obtain cheer, Ryan

#332453 - 10/13/17 09:09 AM Re: Missed ... [Re:]
Dave Online

Registered: 09/09/00
Posts: 13204
Loc: Southeast
Are you certain that trademark is correct? I cannot quite see all the details, but I know that it has been faked on other daggers. Look where the lines start and stop:

Sa SMF3.jpg

#332456 - 10/13/17 06:44 PM Re: Missed ... [Re: Dave]
Herman V. (aka Herr Mann) Offline

Registered: 05/24/04
Posts: 5100
Loc: Brussels, Belgium
That is an excellent point, Dave!

Yes, there are good copies, but on these the lines of the king are WITHOUT interruptions.

This one is the exact twin (makers mark & positioning, grip wood, grip eagle & other dagger parts...) of my ground Rohm, which I have for over a decade.

Best regards,



"Het leven is een strijdtoneel!"

#332465 - 10/14/17 11:49 AM Re: Missed ... [Re: Herman V. (aka Herr Mann)]
Seppi Offline

Registered: 03/07/15
Posts: 61
Loc: Europa
Hello gents and thanks for your opinions ,

I am very disapointed by the comments having only been focused by forge's marks which were correct for this maker and the general


fakes are a formidable danger and a giant business .

then happy for having missed this "jewel" and thanks again to you .


#332705 - 10/28/17 05:09 AM Re: Missed ... [Re: Seppi]
dr73 Offline

Registered: 12/24/08
Posts: 753
Loc: Europe
I can't see the details eighter but I think we souldn't dismiss this dagger too fast. All other parts are original for sure and the blade looks pretty convincing to me as well.


#332707 - 10/28/17 07:10 AM Re: Missed ... [Re: dr73]
MarcGB Online

Registered: 07/22/17
Posts: 87
Loc: Barcelona - Catalonia
I see nothing incorrect in that trademark. What is exactly wrong? I've seen lots with non interrupted lines...

I'm very far from being an expert (light-years)... but still see nothing wrong with this piece.



#332708 - 10/28/17 08:09 AM Re: Missed ... [Re: MarcGB]
Herman V. (aka Herr Mann) Offline

Registered: 05/24/04
Posts: 5100
Loc: Brussels, Belgium
Marc, Danny,

There is absolutely nothing wrong with this SA-dagger: it is an 100% textbook SMF Rohm.

The copies have non interrupted lines in the "seated king" logo, low quality blades & inscriptions and mounted in original (but non SMF!) dagger parts: all very easy to spot when you hold such a piece in your hand and even via pictures.

See hereunder the fake blade and logo.

Best regards,


Fake SMF.jpg

Edited by Herman V. (aka Herr Mann) (10/28/17 08:16 AM)
"Het leven is een strijdtoneel!"

#332717 - 10/28/17 01:55 PM Re: Missed ... [Re: Herman V. (aka Herr Mann)]
MarcGB Online

Registered: 07/22/17
Posts: 87
Loc: Barcelona - Catalonia
Thanks a lot for your explanations Herman. Really appreciate.

Best wishes,



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