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#330418 - 07/15/17 07:19 AM Re: Nurnburg, Olympic, DJ, BDM [Re: wotan]
Nork Offline


Registered: 10/22/12
Posts: 22
Hello, the thing in the middle of the grip is the leather retaining strap with press stud. On the smaller knife it was there as opposed to higher up on the pommel on the normal size of knife.

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#330420 - 07/15/17 09:21 AM Re: Nurnburg, Olympic, DJ, BDM [Re: Nork]
Herman V. (aka Herr Mann) Offline



Registered: 05/24/04
Posts: 5110
Loc: Brussels, Belgium
That is correct, Nork!

A lower positioned snap is sometimes also seen on early, unofficial HJ-knifes, like the "eagle-head" hereunder.

I am very curious to get more information about this fascinating photograph!

Best regards,

Herman


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Edited by Herman V. (aka Herr Mann) (07/15/17 09:23 AM)
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#330421 - 07/15/17 10:55 AM Re: Nurnburg, Olympic, DJ, BDM [Re: Nork]
Fred Prinz - FP Offline



Registered: 12/28/01
Posts: 4223
Loc: (formerly) Northridge, Califor...
Originally Posted By: Nork
A friend sent me this. Says he found it online recently. I'll try and find out where he got it from. Someone said apparently that the rune is weird or too bright? Well the man pictured is a high ranking DJ leader (Gebiet Jungvolk Fuhrer) and those sleeve runes were only in use for a short time. Nothing wrong that rune at all. The knife is definitely interesting though and it looks like it has the correct dimensions to be a DJ knife and with scabbard diamond! What I would say is that this photo is early, not late-war. Some sellers put these knives into mid-war or late-war so the photo turns that theory on its head I think.

I know that there is an angle and the first individual pictured is larger, but I'm not so sure that the knife at the top is actually smaller using the belt buckle and the knife pictured below as reference points. That said, what's also interesting is that an approximate date can be assigned to the picture because of the short time the runes were used. Best Regards, Fred


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Edit Reason: clarification

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#330442 - 07/16/17 01:07 PM Re: Nurnburg, Olympic, DJ, BDM [Re: Fred Prinz - FP]
Nork Offline


Registered: 10/22/12
Posts: 22
Okay, seems that the photo isn't real after all. I found the Hitler Youth Militaria Forum source. The guy who sent it to me didn't read the story behind the photo and just assumed it was real. Sorry guys.



Edited by Nork (07/16/17 01:08 PM)

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#330824 - 08/04/17 11:56 AM Re: Nurnburg, Olympic, DJ, BDM [Re: Nork]
Herman V. (aka Herr Mann) Offline



Registered: 05/24/04
Posts: 5110
Loc: Brussels, Belgium
Hello Nork,

Do you have any information about who, when and why this photo was "produced"?

Best regards,

Herman


Edited by Herman V. (aka Herr Mann) (08/04/17 11:56 AM)
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#330884 - 08/06/17 09:38 AM Re: Nurnburg, Olympic, DJ, BDM [Re: Herman V. (aka Herr Mann)]
wotan Offline



Registered: 07/14/00
Posts: 4469
Loc: at home
Originally Posted By: Herman V. (aka Herr Mann)
Hello Nork,

Do you have any information about who, when and why this photo was "produced"?

Best regards,

Herman


Herman, Nork already gave the info: https://www.hj-research.com/forum/f31/stunning-new-evidence-dj-knife-found-11490/#post76816
and it seem that Jo Rivett has made the photograph.

I want to emphasize that due to what I have in my personal evidences of PERIOD worn edged weapons (some of these daggers or hangers you have not seen up to now or will see at least very very rarely - I am sure you eg. remember my photograph of the HYouth knife with the emblem low in the grip) I had no reason to mistrust the photograph carried from Nork to our forum. What we have learned is, that we always should demand the mentioning of the source if a photograph is not in the personal posession of the person who shows it.
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#330904 - 08/07/17 09:23 AM Re: Nurnburg, Olympic, DJ, BDM [Re: wotan]
Herman V. (aka Herr Mann) Offline



Registered: 05/24/04
Posts: 5110
Loc: Brussels, Belgium
You are right, Wotan!

Thanks for the input.

Herman
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