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#326822 02/26/2017 07:38 PM
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Hope we see a good report and pics of HR's at the show. Thanks to all that provide info/pics. Your work is appreciated. Ron

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Ron,, I wasn't there,,,but from reports from 3 different collectors there,,, The ring front was a sad one.. HRs,,very few. Really I heard of only 2 good ones.. Maybe MilNut Andy can give a better report..
PP rings were worse! from reports,,most were fakes and fantasies. Probably not more than a handful of good ones.
Many like this,,over priced postwar pieces that just confused the unlearned ring collector..

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Thank you. Glad to hear from you! Ron

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Thanks G.!
Hope we will see some more pics from the SOS.
For guys like me (not able to visit this show) more than interesting.

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�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder
aus ihren Augen blitzen."
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Ross K had a researched TK ring. Went back 30 min later and it was long gone! $5500
Seen a few others but that file caught my eye with that TK ring. Got two quick pics but can't get them to size.


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Thanks Dustin
Hope you didn't buy too much:)
It would be interesting to see the recipient. Ron

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Ron it was the very controversial "Karl" ring, discussed on waf in detail. Here's some pictures

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Thanks Mike. I thought it was familiar. I went back to WAF and read the thread again.

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there was a lot of junk like this.. I wasn't there but had a couple guys sending photos ,,just noting really good there!

Yes Ross's HR almost sold a few times right away but it has problems and it ruined sales.. It did sell though from what I heard,,maybe someone got a great bargain and don't mind the problems..

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some almost passable fakes there,,,,,

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and with all the junk there,,a diamond in the rough!! I really nice original early WestWall ring..

Well, the MAX is a while away but the next big show.. I'll be there and get some good show photos...
*Please, anyone with SOS show photos we invite you to post here..

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hi gaspare
nice to see you posted a few of the fake rings that was at the sos show this year the west wall ring i believe was one i had in my case the young fellow that looked at it didnt know it was a scarce west wall ring i educated him and then i guess he called the lord of the rings gaspare . i will try and post the four rings i bought at the show soon as i get some due rest i dont bounce back as fast any more must be getting old ok then talk later god bless andy militarynut

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Would be fine to see this rings you bought Andy wink


�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder
aus ihren Augen blitzen."
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Originally Posted By: Gaspare
Ron,, I wasn't there,,,but from reports from 3 different collectors there,,, The ring front was a sad one.. HRs,,very few. Really I heard of only 2 good ones.. Maybe MilNut Andy can give a better report..
PP rings were worse! from reports,,most were fakes and fantasies. Probably not more than a handful of good ones.
Many like this,,over priced postwar pieces that just confused the unlearned ring collector..


Oh yes... saw these at max... I believe We even spoke with the seller, reputable man too. Seemed receptive to the commentary... but, here you go folks- the "best" part of the hobby. Still selling as original, quite pricey rings.... it never ceases to amaze me. I would call any of it dishonest per se... just unscrupulous. Sad. It's really sad.

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Mike,,,I really just think its the dealers,,,they don't know what to think anymore! They get one guy coming up to them saying 'its good', another saying 'its bad'.. So what do they do?,,nothing! It stays for sale right where it was..

Andy's right.. This looks like one of the real early ones!. The kind actually made with barb wire material!

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I technically didn't get this at the SOS but I bought it from someone while he was at the show. The silver content on the tag matches the mark on the ring. I had one with a 800 tag but 835 mark before.

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Real nice looking one.

These tags.
Years ago i handeld about 50 to 60 of this mint tagged rings and not always the
Content mark fitted to the content on the tag although the rings were for sure
period and period tagged.
G. for 100 % will remember this rings.

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�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder
aus ihren Augen blitzen."
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Ive had that on two of the 5 rings. Tags both said 800, content was 835. I thought this was interesting because it was the exact pattern of one I had that was 835.

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I think a fault while tagging in the factory


�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder
aus ihren Augen blitzen."

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