UBB.threads Forums Edged Weapons European Edged Weapons Horster TM on Danish Naval dagger M1907

Hi gents, Do you know what years Horster used this TM?

Alex:

I have found this mark, or a variation of this mark, on a Luft2, which puts its use up to the 1936 period.

I have also seen this mark on TR era bayonets.

John

I have the identical dagger at worlddaggers.com
This mark is a post WWII mark used by Horster for foreign daggers. In particular it can be found also on the 1966 Air Force Dagger.

Thank you gents,
This TM looks almost identical to post WWII mark used by Horster, .. but I tend to believe that it is pre WWII mark. The reason for my believe is the fact that the scabbard on this dagger has welded lion head, which is typical for early models. Post war daggers have scabbards with pressed on lion heads.

My WKC with Ivory grip and marked CL Seifert was produced between 1903 and 1929 based on the distributors use of his mark during that time. It's lion head is pressed as are the other pre WWII daggers I have seen.
So I must ask, who told you that post war were welded metal?

Hi Jim,
Nobody told me that, I've done some research, and found that welded metal tigers are typical for early M1907 models of Danish naval daggers.
Ivory grip models are M1848 and they have pressed lion heads just like post WWII M1907 models, but I could be wrong.

As I said Alex, every example I have seen pre war is pressed including the examples in Berger and Glemser. The only model where I have seen the attached lions are on the Horster scabbards like yours and the one I posted on world daggers.

I have three different references that show clear photos of pre war daggers with the pressed out lions and not one that shows a pre war dagger with an attached lion.

So please tell me where the references are that you researched.

Please understand that you are basically saying every Danish Model 1907 except yours is post war which really goes against current thinking.

Hi Jim,
I didn’t have a single reference, I checked two dozen web sites with pictures and descriptions and made an assumption. Looks like I was wrong. Sorry, I didn’t mean to confuse anyone. Please ignore my statement.

No problem Alex. Yours is pre 19666 for sure and apparently was also a garrison dagger because of the number. The model 1848's are noticeably smaller than the 1907. I have two of the States and they are both about 2" shorter.

That being said, Horster very well may have made Danish Daggers pre 1945. But I have always considered the ones with the dark Orange grips to be a early post war issue. And I could be wrong also.

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