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#325649 - 01/10/17 09:05 AM Gottlieb HJ dagger
michal199 Offline


Registered: 04/30/15
Posts: 16
Loc: poland
hello,i have a question about the originality of this piece.the diamond is moving
i have a little doubts about the scabbard too IMO not correct with that maker.but i'm not certain.
best regards


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Edited by michal199 (01/10/17 09:06 AM)

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#325651 - 01/10/17 09:38 AM Re: Gottlieb HJ dagger [Re: michal199]
michal199 Offline


Registered: 04/30/15
Posts: 16
Loc: poland
i've forgot i'm not an owner of this piece yet.it wakes too many doubts,the seller want to sell me it from a few months (wich in itself puzzling) so i wanted to be ceratin before i buy something.by the way the price is 130 $.


Edited by michal199 (01/10/17 09:40 AM)

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#325670 - 01/10/17 05:28 PM Re: Gottlieb HJ dagger [Re: michal199]
stingray Offline


Registered: 11/20/07
Posts: 2489
Loc: north east US
Can we see better picture of the motto ?
From first picture the motto looks funny.
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#325686 - 01/11/17 06:31 AM Re: Gottlieb HJ dagger [Re: stingray]
michal199 Offline


Registered: 04/30/15
Posts: 16
Loc: poland
this is the bast photo that i have at this moment.
thank You


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#325689 - 01/11/17 08:43 AM Re: Gottlieb HJ dagger [Re: michal199]
Dave Offline


Registered: 09/09/00
Posts: 13057
Loc: Southeast
Sorry to say, but that motto does not look original acid-etched.

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#325690 - 01/11/17 08:53 AM Re: Gottlieb HJ dagger [Re: Dave]
michal199 Offline


Registered: 04/30/15
Posts: 16
Loc: poland
yes i was taken this opportunity into account,this was one of the reasons to post it here.so i will pass the business
thank You very much

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#325695 - 01/11/17 02:16 PM Re: Gottlieb HJ dagger [Re: michal199]
Herman V. (aka Herr Mann) Offline


Registered: 05/24/04
Posts: 4976
Loc: Brussels, Belgium
This is an original early HJ-knife and the scabbards is also a nice early one.

unfortunately the motto has been redone... and in what a horrible way! eek

Best regards,

Herman
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#325706 - 01/12/17 05:48 AM Re: Gottlieb HJ dagger [Re: Herman V. (aka Herr Mann)]
michal199 Offline


Registered: 04/30/15
Posts: 16
Loc: poland
thank You for opinion.it's sad that this ''not so bad'' knife was butchered by some ignoramus.
best regards

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#325709 - 01/12/17 09:53 AM Re: Gottlieb HJ dagger [Re: michal199]
Mac 66 Online


Registered: 01/21/09
Posts: 692
Loc: Scotland.
Originally Posted By: michal199
thank You for opinion.it's sad that this ''not so bad'' knife was butchered by some ignoramus.
best regards



Sadly this is happening more often these days so best to post pix on the forums before purchase, even some big name dealers are at this crap & also selling fakes for big money.




Regards Mac 66

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#325710 - 01/12/17 10:10 AM Re: Gottlieb HJ dagger [Re: Mac 66]
michal199 Offline


Registered: 04/30/15
Posts: 16
Loc: poland
yes,fortunately i didn't make the purchase.i'm patient and wait little more for a legit example.
You're right the market reminds a minefield these days.
best regards


Edited by michal199 (01/12/17 10:11 AM)

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