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#275792 - 12/18/12 08:17 AM Re: Imperial Eagles ... [Re: Dean Perdue]
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Thanks for adding these two good examples, each one has a super eagle motif. The double-headed eagle plate is a beauty, just wonderful detail to the entire body. The artist didn't miss anything. The strong, circular border-designs really lock that central image in, they give the whole thing that feeling of a powerful warrior's shield. They just don't come much better than this ... wink

Eagle! Tirolean Eagle! ... is all I can make out of the lead-in to the saying on this fine wooden plate. Also lots of excellent detailing throughout the carving, love the way the banderole folds back on itself, great work there. The floral sprigs and Edelweiss blooms are classic too, all professionally carried out. The eagle must have initially been a nice bright, Tirolean red, a good while back. Sadly, someone must have hung this decorative piece in direct sunlight and over a long period of time. Normally the red pigments will tend to be the first to get bleached out by the sun's UV-rays. No matter, it's still a classic example of the distinctive red-raptor from the alps.

Man you've got a great eagle collection going there my friend, thanks for hooking us up with these extra nice patterns.



#276213 - 12/26/12 05:54 AM Re: Imperial Eagles ... [Re: WWII]
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Loc: Austria
The first eagle is not an norembergia eagle. It is an austrian eagle. The eagle, that was used between WWI and WWII.

#276231 - 12/27/12 11:12 AM Re: Imperial Eagles ... [Re: Wolf100]
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Dean, Wolf,

Could you gents please explain what's meant by the term "norimbergia" eagle? I'm really not sure myself? Was that one of the early double-headed German eagles, something to do with Albrecht Dürer, and is that the correct spelling of the term? I know some of the early Austrian national symbols depicted an eagle having a single head, like the second photo I'll attach. The first photo is what I mean by the Dürer-related piece and the third is another nice Austrian example. The eagle that I posted previously is the royal Kaiser's crown.

I find so many of these eagle designs appealing and it's also very interesting to know something about them. Hopefully we can add more examples and learn a bit more about them as we go...




#276232 - 12/27/12 11:12 AM Re: Imperial Eagles ... [Re: WWII]
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#276233 - 12/27/12 11:13 AM Re: Imperial Eagles ... [Re: WWII]
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#325229 - 12/27/16 01:22 PM Re: Imperial Eagles ... [Re: WWII]
Dean Perdue Offline

Registered: 05/20/08
Posts: 1333
Loc: Michigan U S A
A plate carving to add in hopes of getting some information.

Plate measures over 14" in diameter and I'd guess 2" deep.

I thought the outer edge motif appeared to be 23 swaztikas but others saw backwards seig runes.
I've seen this pattern before on a book. Any thoughts if this would be 3rd reich oriented?

Also any idea the type of wood and if the crest can be researched to find out who it belonged to?
Any good reference material that would help me get started?

Thanks for any input.



#325230 - 12/27/16 01:23 PM Re: Imperial Eagles ... [Re: Dean Perdue]
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#325231 - 12/27/16 01:24 PM Re: Imperial Eagles ... [Re: Dean Perdue]
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Reverse & side


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#325444 - 01/03/17 11:32 AM Re: Imperial Eagles ... [Re: Dean Perdue]
Tristan Offline

Registered: 01/08/06
Posts: 627
Loc: Scotland
What beautiful workmanship!
I hope this is not to far off-topic to be relevant but this is the Prussian Eagle that features on a Postal sword, probably end of 19th century. The detail is much better than I can capture with my camera.

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#325446 - 01/03/17 02:22 PM Re: Imperial Eagles ... [Re: Tristan]
Jim W Offline

Registered: 08/22/01
Posts: 3780
Absolutely beautiful wood carved bowl. The closest I can find for the carving is the Webster family crest. This would be out of the UK which is consistent with the lions.

#330266 - 07/05/17 02:45 PM Re: Imperial Eagles ... [Re: Jim W]
Dean Perdue Offline

Registered: 05/20/08
Posts: 1333
Loc: Michigan U S A
Looking for advice on trying to save this patriotic art that has some obvious problems. Also, was this a hand done item?

I believe it was framed at one time and would like to eventually find a nice period wood frame and put it under glass.

Maybe it's wishful thinking but is there any type of conservative matting that is self sticking that this piece can be mounted to in hopes of preventing any further tearing.

Thanks for input on the object or it's conservation.


#330267 - 07/05/17 02:50 PM Re: Imperial Eagles ... [Re: Dean Perdue]
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close ups.



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-- German Militaria References --

Awards and Medals

3rd Reich Badges & Clasps
3rd Reich Orders & Medals
Imperial Combat Badges
Imperial Orders & Medals
Iron Cross 1st Gallery
Iron Cross 1st Spanges
Iron Cross 2nd Gallery
Iron Cross 2nd Spanges
Knight's Cross Gallery
Oak Leaves, Swords, & Diamonds
Order of the German Eagle
Ribbon Bar Chart
Shields/Cuff Titles
Award/Medal Maker Marks

Daggers & Swords

Dagger Id Guide
Miniature Dagger Id Guide
Dagger Blade Mottos
Maker/Distributor Marks
SA/NSKK Group Marks
SA Transitional RZM Codes
SS RZM Codes
Eickhorn "Field Marschall" Swords

Insignia and Emblems

Belt Buckles
Collar/Shoulder Tabs - Imperial
Collar/Shoulder Tabs - NSDAP
Collar/Shoulder Tabs - SA
Collar/Shoulder Tabs - SS
Collar/Shoulder Tabs - Other NSDAP
Collar/Shoulder Tabs - Military
Collar/Shoulder Tabs - Government
Collar/Shoulder Tabs - Police
Cuff Titles - Non-SS
Cuff Titles - SS
SS Sleeve Diamonds
Foreign Volunteer Arm Shields
Helmet Decals
Military Career/Specialist Patches
Military Services Waffenfarbe
Uniform Eagle Insignia
Visor Cap/Hat Insignia

Manufacturer Codes

Erkennungs Unit Abbreviations
HeeresWaffenAmt Codes
Lieferant & LDO Numbers
Optics Maanufacturer Codes
RZM M1 - Insignia & Badge Makers
RZM M2 - Metal Work Suppliers
RZM M3 - Party Emblem Makers
RZM M4 - Buckle Makers
RZM M5 - Uniform Accessories
RZM M7 - Edged Weapons Makers
RZM M9 - Tinnie Makers
RZM M11/12 - NSDAP LS Medals & Minature Makers

-- U.S. Militaria References --

Aviator Wings
Army Enlisted Collar Discs
Military Medals
Ribbon Chart
WW1 Division Patches
WW2 Army & Corps Patches
WW2 Division Patches
WW2 Phantom Division Patches

-- Small Arms References --

Autoloading Pistols 1892-1909
Beretta Pistols 1915-1945
Colt Auto Pistols 1900-1945
FN (Browning) Pistols 1900-1945
Luger Proof & Acceptance Marks 1898-1945
Lugers - DWM Production 1895-1929
Lugers - DWM Military/Contract 1904-29
Lugers - Rework & Non-DWM 1915-1945
Mauser C96 Broomhandles 1896-1937
Nambu Pistols 1902-1945
Walther 1-9, PP, PPK, & P38 1910-1945
Walther Sport/Olympia Pistols

WW2 Pistols
WW2 Rifles
WW2 Sub-machine Guns
WW2 (German) Assault Rifles
WW2 Light Machine Guns

-- WW2 Armored Vehicles --

Axis Countries
Armored Vehicles of Germany
Armored Vehicles of Hungary
Armored Vehicles of Italy
Armored Vehicles of Japan

Allied Countries
Armored Vehicles of France
Armored Vehicles of Great Britain
Armored Vehicles of Poland
Armored Vehicles of the U.S.
Armored Vehicles of the U.S.S.R.

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