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#323794 - 11/27/16 09:17 PM Rare Pack Hirschfanger
stingray Online

Registered: 11/20/07
Posts: 2566
Loc: north east US
Here is one rare Oberjager Hirschfanger which I was lucky to get to my collection.
I just love that eagle head,the detail is unbelievable.
It's good to have a friends in Europe,so thank you Ger









#323814 - 11/28/16 01:46 PM Re: Rare Pack Hirschfanger [Re: stingray]
JohnZ Offline

Registered: 03/29/06
Posts: 5217
Loc: Calgary
Neat dagger, Ivan

This is a Pack maker mark I haven't seen before. ..maybe a relative or a predecessor to Ernst?

Always looking for Eickhorns and etched bayonets.

#323820 - 11/28/16 03:24 PM Re: Rare Pack Hirschfanger [Re: JohnZ]
Jim W Offline

Registered: 08/22/01
Posts: 3793
John, I have the same maker mark on my Prussian Auto Corps Dagger, so prior to WWI.

The company is Pack Ohliger & Co, and I believe it pre dated Ernst Pack, but some people think it was a subsidiary.

#323824 - 11/28/16 05:02 PM Re: Rare Pack Hirschfanger [Re: Jim W]
DAMAST Offline

Registered: 02/10/07
Posts: 1260
Loc: U.S.A.
Yep, changed over in the 20s....
When the Industry directory for Solingen was printed in 1922 (have a few of them sold one to Ivan) they added a sticker label over the old (Pack Ohliger) company to the new Ernst Pack and Sohne.
This information is also in Anthony Carters book (German Knife and Sword Makers) Always for sale on e-bay and by me.. smile
So a must have book guys...
Regards: James

Edited by DAMAST (11/28/16 05:04 PM)

#323826 - 11/28/16 06:21 PM Re: Rare Pack Hirschfanger [Re: DAMAST]
Billy G. Offline

Registered: 03/31/00
Posts: 4671
Loc: USA

That dagger is as beautiful as it is rare, well done!
GDC Gold Badge #290
GDC Silver Badge #310

#323832 - 11/28/16 08:00 PM Re: Rare Pack Hirschfanger [Re: Billy G.]
stingray Online

Registered: 11/20/07
Posts: 2566
Loc: north east US
Yes,James (Damast) is correct
Here are few pictures what James mentioned:
Industry directory for Solingen 1922
and original Pack catalog founded in 1909.








#323888 - 11/29/16 10:08 PM Re: Rare Pack Hirschfanger [Re: stingray]
Serge (aka Wagner) Offline

Registered: 07/16/06
Posts: 2597
Loc: Gold Country
That's a Wow ! dagger. It's a wonderful rare example. Congrats Ivan.

#324129 - 12/05/16 11:24 AM Re: Rare Pack Hirschfanger [Re: Serge (aka Wagner)]
VAT69 Offline

Registered: 11/25/16
Posts: 115
Loc: Russia, Königsberg
Prussian hunting knife NCOs Guard shooters, the first half of the 19th century.
Very rare, congrats!

#324869 - 12/19/16 03:47 PM Re: Rare Pack Hirschfanger [Re: VAT69]
Kevin (heers68) Online

Registered: 06/26/04
Posts: 1619
Loc: n.c. usa
Boy Ivan, the more I see this one the more I like it!! Well done! Kevin.
It's ALL in the DETAILS!!.......

#325207 - 12/27/16 02:41 AM Re: Rare Pack Hirschfanger [Re: Kevin (heers68)]
Gerrit1963 Offline

Registered: 02/28/13
Posts: 27
Your Welcome Ivan, it was my pleasure!
It landed in the collection where it should be.
It has a fantastic grip, the eagle realy seems to scream at you.



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