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#323599 11/20/2016 10:26 PM
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Well Guess a lot of you guys know I have been after a SS Dagger for a while . I wasn't quite ready money wise to get this but the deal was there. It had a buy now price on it and it for 3200 and the bid was almost up to that amount. I looked over to my wife and said can I hit the button, she said you better hit it or it will be gone. Love that Lady smile

















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Exactly how a 120/34 dagger should look like.. please tak some pics in daylight when you get it.
Great example and a good price !
Congrats

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Beautiful transitional My first SS dagger as well. many years ago from Chuck Scaglione enjoy your homework paid off cheers Ryan

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Well done. my only SS is a 120/34 but no where near as nice as this.


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Yes, nice.

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Thanks Ryan smile


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Thanks Sean smile


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Nice score, complete rig, all original, super condition. Should be a good investment as well, but we collect to enjoy. Congrats, John


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Killer dagger!!

This maker is one of the few marked "RZM" that have the earlier production characteristics and quality. Nickel-silver fittings, etc.

OUTSTANDING condition!!

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easily worth $3800 to $4400 cheers and be proud Ryan

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Well done sir - very nice

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Thanks John. I'm a happy camper smile
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Nice score, complete rig, all original, super condition. Should be a good investment as well, but we collect to enjoy. Congrats, John


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Thanks Tom smile
Originally Posted By: Mauser88
Killer dagger!!

This maker is one of the few marked "RZM" that have the earlier production characteristics and quality. Nickel-silver fittings, etc.

OUTSTANDING condition!!


My Name is Bob and I am a "RACE O HOLIC" AND "THE OLDER I GET THE FASTER I WAS"

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Originally Posted By: sellick8302@rogers.com
easily worth $3800 to $4400 cheers and be proud Ryan
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Thanks John. I'm a happy camper smile
Originally Posted By: vintagetimenow
Nice score, complete rig, all original, super condition. Should be a good investment as well, but we collect to enjoy. Congrats, John
Thanks Ryan, Like Classic Cars If you can buy them right Thsy are a good Investment, But I will keep it as long as I can eat LOL


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Originally Posted By: sellick8302@rogers.com
Beautiful transitional My first SS dagger as well. many years ago from Chuck Scaglione enjoy your homework paid off cheers Ryan


This is not exactly a transitional SS dagger.
This is an early one, produced in 1934, so in the first period.
Time to buy some books and do some homework yourself Ryan!

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Originally Posted By: sellick8302@rogers.com
easily worth $3800 to $4400 cheers and be proud Ryan


Wow, where do you buy your daggers???
The dagger has a nice value but please do not exaggerate...
3000 - 3500$ would be more accurate.

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Very nice dagger indeed Bob! I'm so happy for you that you finally have one.
Well done and enjoy the dagger. Believe me, it shall not be the last one. :-)

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Very nice dagger indeed Bob! I'm so happy for you that you finally have one.
Well done and enjoy the dagger. Believe me, it shall not be the last one. :-)
Thanks Kris, well if I do get any more it won't be right away, Thanks for your help. You kept steering me away from the bad ones smile


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Originally Posted By: Redsled
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Very nice dagger indeed Bob! I'm so happy for you that you finally have one.
Well done and enjoy the dagger. Believe me, it shall not be the last one. :-)
Thanks Kris, well if I do get any more it won't be right away, Thanks for your help. You kept steering me away from the bad ones smile


It was really my pleasure. :-)

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we that have been in the hobby for some time often refer to items as we are originally used to..Krikke/Kris I dont know you I have collected since 1982 and remember talking to Tom Johnson about district stamps when the collecting community still accepted that cross guards could be stamped 1 to 9 I always thought that was wrong I used to buy RZM 120/14s for $800 back in 1994 because many considered them to be fake and NO one wanted RZM pieces little was known...I don't know everything..I am continually impressed when I meet up with Paul Hogle and he shares his wealth of knowledge but be rest assured "my friend" that I have done my "homework" cheers and respect, Ryan

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Great looking SS there Bob!!! I'm jealous!! they don't get much better than that.....great score!!

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Ryan I was a Hotel Buyer back in the 70's and 80's Mainly bought Samurai Swords for a living but did buy Many German Daggers ect, I was buying SS Daggers for 3-400 dollars and I think I paid about 1000 1500 for chained SS Daggers and most of them were Mint condition. Tom Johnson came in on one of my buying trips in Indianapolis to see if I had bought any German items , daggers I think I sold him 4 Daggers one was an SS. Really Nice guy. I think he was on Active duty then, I hadn't been out of the Army very Long. . Had a Good collection once of Daggers and Nazi Pistols and Samurai swords, But are all Gone.:) Bob
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we that have been in the hobby for some time often refer to items as we are originally used to..Krikke/Kris I dont know you I have collected since 1982 and remember talking to Tom Johnson about district stamps when the collecting community still accepted that cross guards could be stamped 1 to 9 I always thought that was wrong I used to buy RZM 120/14s for $800 back in 1994 because many considered them to be fake and NO one wanted RZM pieces little was known...I don't know everything..I am continually impressed when I meet up with Paul Hogle and he shares his wealth of knowledge but be rest assured "my friend" that I have done my "homework" cheers and respect, Ryan


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Thanks Pat I appreciate this smile
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Hi Bob I am certain that you had many stellar pieces from that era I would have loved to have seen them. We have all sold or gotten rid of pieces and collections that we regret for many reasons. Good news is that there are still deals and great fellows out there so that you can rebuild a collection that SS is a fine start cheers, Ryan

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Yea Ryan if I only knew what I knew Now. I have lots of stories LOL.
On one trip I done real well Man bought several Japanese swords and a guy came in and said he had to much stuff to bring in. Well I went over to his house and he had a foot locker with about 20 daggers or so I it and lots of other things Like a Navy Luger with Holster shoulder stock and Snare clip Mint condition. I bought that for 500 and I can't remember what all the daggers were But I can remember e had 6 Unissued 2nd Model Navy and a couple of nice rad hewers , SA and one Nice SS, I bought all of them. To really top the trip off he said would you like to meet my nheibor I sort of looked at him and he said Jamie Farr, It was in Toledo Ohio. Jamie came over and we had a beer and a good visit. He was just a great regular guy:)


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Originally Posted By: sellick8302@rogers.com
we that have been in the hobby for some time often refer to items as we are originally used to..Krikke/Kris I dont know you I have collected since 1982 and remember talking to Tom Johnson about district stamps when the collecting community still accepted that cross guards could be stamped 1 to 9 I always thought that was wrong I used to buy RZM 120/14s for $800 back in 1994 because many considered them to be fake and NO one wanted RZM pieces little was known...I don't know everything..I am continually impressed when I meet up with Paul Hogle and he shares his wealth of knowledge but be rest assured "my friend" that I have done my "homework" cheers and respect, Ryan


Well, I never saw crossguard districtstamps higher then III... Some Eickhorn lower crossguards can be 'benchmarked' from 1 to 9 but that has nothing to do with with districtstamps. Accepted is that these are some qualitycontrol markings.

And fact is still that 120/34, 120/35, 121/34, 121/35 and 188/35's are and stay early daggers with the same nice quality as other makermarked daggers and not 'transitionals'.
Thanks and respect.

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Point taken Kris, but 30 years ago we, in my circle of collecting referred to these particular SS daggers as being transitional due to RZM marking and nickle silver and annondized/painted scabbards. I am just trying to state that nomenclature changes along with information sometimes I, myself, still refer to them that way and always will as they are not maker marked and therefore the earliest of production tomatoe/tomato smile cheers and regards, Ryan

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Thanks for the daylight pictures,
Looks like a untouched dagger .. whatever you do dont take it apart just to clean it!! Leave it as it is.
Textbook 120/34 with correct parts and typical ss pin for this producer ,,
Enjoy
Emil

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Emil No sure won't take it apart, The Tang Nut has never had a wrench on and has never been turned. That is the way It will stay. smile
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Thanks for the daylight pictures,
Looks like a untouched dagger .. whatever you do dont take it apart just to clean it!! Leave it as it is.
Textbook 120/34 with correct parts and typical ss pin for this producer ,,
Enjoy
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Originally Posted By: sellick8302@rogers.com
Point taken Kris, but 30 years ago we, in my circle of collecting referred to these particular SS daggers as being transitional due to RZM marking and nickle silver and annondized/painted scabbards. I am just trying to state that nomenclature changes along with information sometimes I, myself, still refer to them that way and always will as they are not maker marked and therefore the earliest of production tomatoe/tomato smile cheers and regards, Ryan


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A great piece Bob, congratulations!
My example of its coeval, 121/34.
But not so good as your.
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Hi Sergy Glad to meet you:) Your dagger is very Nice also.


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Hi, Bob!
Thanks, also glad to meet you!
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When I was a Hotel buyer back in the 70's and 80's I bought a few of the Pickle Hooties as I call them lOL


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smirk In the 70's and 80's I was just a noob, schoolboy. But was born and grew up on the ruins of the Third Reich. And in the war games played with the original MP38 and 98K. Here, since then something has accumulated. But a particular interest appeared about three years ago, especially towards official daggers.
Sorry for my English, so-so, the school course frown
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Sergey, Your English is great. We joined the GD about the same time:) Glad we can meet nice people all over the world, I am in a fer car club forums Same thing there Mice people world wide. My main Car Club Forum is (The International Christine Car Club) My Car is on My Aviator I have one that is like in the Movie a 58 Plymouth .
I have loved German Daggers every since I was about 8-10 years old.


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Thanks, Bob!
The legendary car, the great movie! (I watched it several times).
Nightmare Queen - is a subject for the real men! Sincere congratulations!
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Hey Sergey we will talk but we need somewhere else to talk on the forum. LOL Don't want to get our buts chewed out buy changing the subject smile


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