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#322441 10/18/2016 06:25 PM
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I'm posting these for Frank, I'm sure he will be able to answer any questions you may have, I'm not well versed on either of these, personally I like them.
Teno first.

Gary

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Hello Baz69, first tell Frank NOT TO MESS AROUND WITH THESE DAGGERS! Generally these daggers, sabers, swords and so on are 70+ years old. The material has weakened. Any dissambling and reassambling can cause (serious) damage and also misfit of the edged weapon if it is not 100% correct done.

Now to the TN: It is obviously a very nice conditioned, original TN leader dagger. I can see only extremely small liftings at the crossguard which is extremely(!) seldom for this kind of dagger. Normally they do come with much more liftings. Also the original artificial patination (see around the eagle and the cogwheel and naturally the scabbard) is practically for 99-100% present.
It is a dagger of the earlier run as these have a stamped number on the blade (on the scabbard they were ALWAYS stamped). Later daggers had etched numbers on the blade.
Very(!) nice original dagger.
Now these daggers are made from lightweight material and each dissambling can cause that 1. the grip can crack and 2. the thread of the pommel can weaken so it does not hold the pommel in a correct way any more....
Your friend should be extremely careful when reassambling it.

The Gov dagger also looks like a nice conditioned, original one. Although these daggers are internally marked (numbered) I would highly recommend not to dissamble it as 1. the spanner nut as good as always is damaged and 2. if you do not have good knowledge of these daggers and do not do the exact reassambling process it is the danger that the dagger will never fit again like it fits now.
As said, now a nice original dagger.

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wotan, gd.c-b#105

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Hi Wotan
I'll tell him for sure not to mess around taking these apart, thank you for your thoughts, they do look like very nice original daggers.

Appreciate all
Gary

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Beautiful examples. I love seeing the stamped blade numbers on the earlier TeNos, sadly my example is later & etched. The Alcoso GO is also nicely conditioned.

I would echo Wotan's suggestion about avoiding taking daggers down, I often leads to issues that can't be fixed.


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Thanks. Made my day. Frank.

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Originally Posted By: wotan
Hello Baz69, first tell Frank NOT TO MESS AROUND WITH THESE DAGGERS! Generally these daggers, sabers, swords and so on are 70+ years old. The material has weakened. Any dissambling and reassambling can cause (serious) damage and also misfit of the edged weapon if it is not 100% correct done.

Now to the TN: It is obviously a very nice conditioned, original TN leader dagger. I can see only extremely small liftings at the crossguard which is extremely(!) seldom for this kind of dagger. Normally they do come with much more liftings. Also the original artificial patination (see around the eagle and the cogwheel and naturally the scabbard) is practically for 99-100% present.
It is a dagger of the earlier run as these have a stamped number on the blade (on the scabbard they were ALWAYS stamped). Later daggers had etched numbers on the blade.
Very(!) nice original dagger.
Now these daggers are made from lightweight material and each dissambling can cause that 1. the grip can crack and 2. the thread of the pommel can weaken so it does not hold the pommel in a correct way any more....
Your friend should be extremely careful when reassambling it.

The Gov dagger also looks like a nice conditioned, original one. Although these daggers are internally marked (numbered) I would highly recommend not to dissamble it as 1. the spanner nut as good as always is damaged and 2. if you do not have good knowledge of these daggers and do not do the exact reassambling process it is the danger that the dagger will never fit again like it fits now.
As said, now a nice original dagger.

Regards,



I agree with Wotan 100%.


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