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Hello,

What you think about this chain?

Please post more and better close ups from the entire dagger and chain.
Close up from the skull etc...
I do think it's a nice later period type C chain but we gonna need better pics of the skulls.

Is the chain magnetic?

Not the best quality... it is magnetic

Looks very fine and magnetic is correct for type C chain beeing steal with nickel plated layer.
Why don't you post pics of the dagger itself?

Sorry about delay

Here is dagger, someway I don't know about it? There's something I do not like. I don't have any reference books where to compare.

Blade looks pretty ok!

Crossguards are nickel plated and badly corroded. Grip itself fits pretty ok to guards. Also grip eagle look pretty weird on closeups, it fits perfectly, but brest of the eagle looks similar like some of SA daggers? So redflags to corrosion and eagle.

Dagger looks fine would need close up of chain links appears to be annondized scabbard? Handle looks very nice no issues with grip eagle cheers, Ryan

Most centerramps of type C chains have a second screw beneith the attachement of the chain. Altough I saw them with only one screw in the past.
But, if you don't have a good feeling with this dagger, then just don't buy him.

Maybe it's just the imaging, but when I enlarged the pictures to get a better look look my impression is that the chain set might be one of the so-called East Bloc (ie: newer) fakes that are seen as both magnetic and non-magnetic. Best Regards, Fred

I can not tell I can't enlarge the images cheers

The machine I'm using at the moment only has screen expansion/contraction capability so unfortunately I can't post any enhancements at this time. That said, with what seems to be in the images, I would rate the dagger at best a reworked pile of parts old and new that is not just limited to the chain. Best Regards, Fred

I'm sure the chain is fine.
The letters are visible on the clasp true the upper eye of the Wotanknot.

Fakers copy markings all the time whether it's an etching or stamping. Which, speaking of stamping, is what the Germans did with most likely a "coining" press which is a specialized type of punch press. Used to make the chain links out of steel for the 3rd generation so-called "Type I" chain links. That probably had a second type of operation using another type of punch press, which was followed by a period type of nickel plating. With this one that's in the attached image, I regrettably have to say, (IMO) just a poorly made cast copy. Best Regards, Fred

These have been my immediate thoughts when I have seen the first pic. I even tend to think that the whole scabbard (fittings) are faked.
Eg look at the "Wotan´s knot" and do compare it with a doubtless period one - much difference.
The "Wotan´s knot" on period type one daggers has a little sekret which this fake her does not have.
And look at this grip eagle: For me a typical faked one. When the faked Wotan´s knot is much too slobby the eagle is much to clear.

Thank´s to collector´s god that these fakes are still easily to be detected.

Regards,

In agreement with the above the problems are not limited to just the chain. The center mount is bad, a postwar painted semi-matte black paint job on the scabbard and grip. Obscured photos of the roundel - it's not even one of the better quality 'East Bloc' fakes (IMO). Best Regards, Fred