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At last What Seany ?

Herman,


To be honest i think you will wait forever to see if a solid red diamond was applied to a particular maker or makers, it seems to me that properly fitted quality TR made solid reds are fitted to "Random Makers" during the last 3yrs of hj knife production to RZM marked hjs that i have found & owned, also what i see on dealers sites & other member knifes posted on WAF solid red thread & e-stand over several years, maybe if you get the chance to buy an unmessed hj with solid red with the required movement have a good hands on study at it & then have it X-Rayed at your dentist, just a thought or two.


There are just some things that we collectors will never ever find out what was done & not done to hj knifes ect,ect during the TR period, unless a time machine is ever invented......


Regards Mac 66.

Mac, without me reading through 10 years of postings. Perhaps you could help me out.

Based on your above post, I would like you to verify that you have personally seen, handled, inspected Hitler Youth Knives that had solid diamonds, that you judged to be original, from the factory, unbuggered?

Thank you

Yes of course i have Jim, the last one i owned i could not fault it in anyway, i speak the truth not made up stories.


Regards Mac 66.

I don't doubt that Mac.
So far in just this thread, Gottlieb and you have both verified you have seen them. What little I know about probability says they must exist. I know of at least one other member who testifies to the same.

It reminds me of the RLB Leaders Dagger. We actually have one author who maintains that the only war time original RLB's were made by Weyersburg. This is, of course, disputed by just about every expert who collects. Yet the author still maintains he is correct.

It would be a shame if people do not post here because of the moderators stance on one issue. Post nice and professionally, of course.

People like Mac obviously have a wealth of information to share. What good does it do to drive them away?

Just questions for thought.

Jim,


Also ask DD Harris, JR, Paul Hogle, Ron weinand, these guys have handled & sold hj knifes with the solid red diamonds


You should take some of your time to read & take in the info in this thread on WAF : http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/forums/showthread.php?t=490941&highlight=solid+red


I am not here to be baited by certain people which has happened in the past on here & on WAF solid red threads, this is why i get angry, i,m a peaceful guy until i,m provoked, enough said on that.


Not much more i can say or add at this point in time.



Regards Mac 66.

proof

Proof of what ?, you talking about that early knife Herman showed with a fake insert glued into place ?, your a man of very few words

Mac and others,

I will stop the discussion right here!

No more repetition: points have been made many times.

Unless you show real proof or new elements: all repetition will be removed!

Best regards,

Herman

Herman,


Tell me something, what do you regard personally as Real Proof ?


Maybe an hj knife with solid red that you yourself bought directly from the hj vets son or daughter ?

at the end of the day what we are basically discussing is the colour of the enamel: solid red.

Solid red enamel is accepted as genuine as discussed already, comes in a variety of TR badges & hj pins, also hj diamonds were made with the proper tangs on the rear to be fitted into the griplate of hj knifes, just the same way clear hj knife diamonds were made during the period, personally i take all the past evidence together with owning & examining hj knifes with solid reds finding no tampering makes me feel more positive & relaxed about them, i do not think you will find any period evidence why solid red diamonds made it into the manufacture of various hj knife makers, if anybody manages to the find out anything new let us know.



Regards Mac 66.

Just to throw in my 5p (or cents as you say in the States) I had a HJ purchased from DD Harris a few years ago with a solid red diamond. It had no issues and nothing to show the diamond had been changed. All looked period and correct.

Fair enough, "dagger screws".

But so did my collector friend: he was even proud about his new HJ-knife... until he found out about the reality of his nice "opaque" -as some call them- diamond knife, then his mood changed just a little bid...

Do you still have that HJ-knife? If so try to find out how the full red is attached.

Best regards,

Herman

I bought hj knife with a solid red/opaque enamel diamond from DD Harris as well & all was 100% correct, diamond had correct movement when tapped with my finger, great sound to hear, Click


Br Mac 66.

Unfortunately I sold the HJ some years ago.

Hello all. I find this interesting and this is my first post. I have some questions regarding these solid reds.
1 Why? I've read there were slight size variations early to late diamonds but they were still pebbled. Why the change to solid?
2 When? From this thread it points to the last 3 years of HJ knife production. If that's the case how come there are so many late pieces with pebbled diamonds?
I haven't checked out all the older threads so please forgive me if these questions have been previously answered. All I see on this thread are 2 solid red pins not for the knives with 1 glued in a messed with knife.

Hi Chucky, have a read through these threads & make your own mind up , there is also a good thread on WAF on the subject.

http://phpstack-500133-1583587.cloudwaysapps.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=259949#Post259949

http://phpstack-500133-1583587.cloudwaysapps.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=290730#Post290730






Regards Mac 66.

Accidently found on www.germanmilitaria.com

What do You think ?

Looks genuine enough to me, little corroded on the edges this one

Another pin... may I remind you gentlemen that this is a dagger forum!

I wonder how a badge can get worn that way????

Best regards,

Herman