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I'm sure you guys out there must have an example of an ADJV honor hirschfänger so post if you have.

Here's one of mine.

Gary

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obverse blade etch

yea-i only dream of having one like that in my collection.beautiful piece.thanks for the peek.paul zaya

Gary,

Amazing how the blade has been preserved so well for so long. The darkening is still there and the etched letters still seem so crisp. The only thing that even looks to show it's age is the troddel strap and bulb. Really swell piece mate.

Billy, not bad for 100 years old is it, marked with the Eickhorn back to back squirrels (1900-1910).

I have a couple more to show, Cmon guys somebody must have something.

Gary

Here's another one, most of you guys have seen it before but I never get tired of seeing it in the limelight.

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The piece above from a later period, has the early 3rd Reich Eickhorn double oval mark. awarded to forestry guard Gustav Sondergeld, some new information that has come my way indicates that these honorhirschfangers were only given out to guys who:-

"To those persons who risked their lives during a fight with a poacher".

These guards were not often armed with anything other than a stick or possibly a bayonet/knife, the poachers invairably were armed much heavier, I know where the bravery lays in that situation and can understand the award of such a beautiful and meaningful weapon.


Cheers

Gary

Gary,
Thanks for all the great photos.
Hubertus

Here's my only other example, you have all seen it before but it deserves another outing. A beautiful damascus blade that shows outstanding definition to the band pattern that runs clearly right down to the tip. I doubt I'll ever find out who it was made for.

Gary

Marked Echt Damast under the clamshell

Tip area

Stylised Silver ADJV grip emblem

WOW Gary!!
That is a stunning piece of heavy damascus.

Is that one of Bill Warda's display cases?

Gents,

A quick refresher on the ADJV, forerunner of the DJ and DJV ...

The Allgemeine Deutsche Jagdschutz-Verein was established in 1875 in the city of Dresden. Its chief aim was to support and work in conjunction with state authorities, to enforce practical hunting regulations and reduce any trade for stolen game and animals. The association celebrated its 25th anniversary with a large celebration and series of related events during June of 1900, in Dresden. This is an example of the original book/program, located in the Dresden state archive. The entire booklet is intact, even to include all the perforated ticket pages for entrance fees, social-events, trips, meal-tickets etc. The beautiful logo incorporates the Saxon crest and is hot-foil, silver-stamped onto the cover.

Also pictured is a Rheinprovinz-ADJV badge with a small inset, green/gold enameled disc, "25." This is the first time I've seen one of these 'anniversary-type' cap badges. Has anyone else seen or have another? Since it's from the Rhine-region and marked, "W. Hamman, Dusseldorf," I'm fairly certain it's a member's long-service award as opposed to being related to the gala-celebration in 1900? Either/or explanation is fine by me, I was just interested to get some additional input on this unusual piece. Any and all insights appreciated.

While we're on the subject, does anyone have any more ADJV Hirschfänger (singular and plural, as with the word Degen) they could add to Gary's thread? Some of these weapons have the finest, applied silver logo-monograms that emphasize the natural, pleasing colors and look of the horn.

Great stuff to look at, hope to see more ... fellas?

... a few extra old snaps of G's Damascus ADJV, taken when I worked on the black/white/red-themed case of ash and African Rosewood. (wenge)

Best, and good collecting!

Bill

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Stunning daggers guys thanks for sharing

Perhaps I should add the Adelebsen birthday pair, these two hirschfängers were given to Baron von Adelebsen on his 50th and 60th birthday, the earlier Henckels piece in 1923 for his 50th birthday and the later Eickhorn piece in 1933 for his 60th.

The Henckels in not actually from the ADJV but from his local hunting club but the Eickhorn is from the ADJV, the ADJV was made up of many regional associations which was then sub divided into local clubs.

Thanks to Bill for bringing this one up to air, I sure do love these things.

Gary

Bill,
Thanks for refreshing this thread. More pieces of Gary's collection I've not seen, I'm sure like many others. I would be willing to bet you wouldn't find this quality or half these pieces in a museum. Very very nice.

...and as always Bill, your cabinet making skills are superior.

Rich

Stunning examples in super condition!

Pictures taken of them also tops!

Display work also the best!

Is Bill still making the display cases for you Baz?

Watching this thread this week makes me want to make an extra effort in search for the elusive daggers. Gary, I never tire of seeing these wonderful and rare pieces. I know how proud of these you must be. Each has a story to tell and that is what makes collecting Hirschfangers such an interesting passion. James

Bill thank you for bring this old forum to light again. I hate to see some of these older threads lost in time as I know there are a lot of new members who are interested in the hunting and forestry pieces. Attached are some photos from the past and they were probably added to the older threads. I believe these will fit in with this ones from 9/17/2006.

Sincerely,
HUBERTUS

Additional photos to this group.

Old Friends,

I agree, there are still numerous excellent threads left throughout our forums that should be dusted off and refreshed with new info and photos.

New friends, don't forget - if you go to the opening page of any of the forums, scroll to the the bottom and on the lower left you'll see "display options." Press on "show topics," at the bottom of the list is "from all dates..." pop that in and you'll see lots more good stuff ...

Thanks to all for their favorable comments and adding to this wonderful topic - these ADJV examples are certainly all in a league of their own.

One thing that's easily seen is the extra depth and detail of the acid-etchings found on many of these ADJV blades. The distinctive, banderole panel designs are very clean and simple, taking nothing away from the elegant Gothic presentations. In most cases the illustrations and lettering are extremely sharp, crisp and refined, great to study under magnification.

Gary, the Adelebsen pair are a tough combination to beat - both in outstanding, lovely condition. Next you'll have to find an ADJV dagger that belonged to Ulrich Scherping ...

Ralph, sometimes being unemployed has its advantages, like looking at some of these super old threads ... but on the downside, it makes saving for a nice Hirschfänger next to impossible ...

The stout, heavy look of your two early models makes them quite special. Those massive silver-finished clamshells are abundantly decorated and expertly chiseled with oak leaf wreaths and background finishes, then crowned with a contrasting, gilded ADJV monogram. These are really just superb. The crossguards are heavier, straighter and less angular deer-leg designs, somewhat similar to the Schützen Hirschfänger models we're used to seeing. Both also look to have extensive handwork throughout the hair and hooves - great imperial quality we're looking at.

Always a pleasure having a chance to see such rare treasures, thanks gents!

Bill

Gary, Ralph & Bill...............


Drip, drip, drip,
Y'all have got me adroolin' again !!!!


Regards,

Gary, Ralph,

Thank you for showing these artistically created and historically significant special blades once again. It's always such a pleasure and a real treat for me.

Green with envy.. that's me.

Thanks for showing these wonderful items.

John

I suppose I look at this thread more than any other, I do like these ADJV pieces, here's one I picked up a while back, a big thank you for Paul Hogle for finding this piece and letting me buy it. Perhaps I can ask Bill to add a few more pictures as I have it with him in the States at the moment.

Gary

Gary superb piece I love the eagle head! Never seen one like this.

Beautiful Gary!

The details of this hunting dagger, the TRUE fire gilting, the eaglhead, the clamshell with the wild sow packer dogs, the crossguard with the claw, the ivory grip and, and, all is overwhelming! The condition is the best.
Is there a scabbard with this hunting dagger?
Regards,

Guys,

I thought you would like this piece and yes there is a scabbard with this piece and the original skinner as well, I have it with Bill at the moment as I bought it out of Florida a while back, it is a special pattern, the fire gilt is truly unbelievable, the hand finishing is among the best I have ever seen as well. It's not maker marked but I'm assuming it's either WK&C or Eickhorn, I've never seen another of this pattern. In the Imperial Eickhorn catalogue it's listed as pattern 792 "Oberförster Hirschfänger mit fein ziselierter Montur" but it shows it with a different clamshell and I cannot find it in my limited WK&C Imperial references, the other option is that it is a C&J who I know were producers of ADJV Ehrenhirschfängers but I do not have any Imperial C&J references. If James (Damast) see's this thread he might be able to tie it down.

Gary