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#301475 10/19/2014 04:50 PM
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Hey guys
Here is my new NCO sword.
Two things I'm happy with
#1 It's a Pack
#2 The pommel is engraved LAH

Any opinions?

Regards

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stingray #301476 10/19/2014 04:56 PM
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stingray #301481 10/19/2014 08:13 PM
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stingray #301482 10/19/2014 08:29 PM
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Great catch, Mr. Packman.

John


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JohnZ #301483 10/19/2014 08:52 PM
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Just my personal point of view: I would have a better feeling if the degen would have the proper SS cast pommel. Additionally I have not seen any PACK SS NCO degen up to now but naturally I have not seen all.
For me it is a PACK police NCO degen issued through SS channels with switched grip (grip is obviously a correct SS NCO grip) with an added engraving to the pommel - whenever this engraving was done.

It might be a period done alteration because I do have some wearing photographs with things you would never believe it was worn during the period (also SS Degens) when it would not be documented in a period pic but we will never know for sure.

As said, just my personal pov.

Regards,


wotan, gd.c-b#105

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wotan #301485 10/19/2014 11:04 PM
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Is it possible to post a very closeup picture of the pommel initials.. Thanks..

DAMAST #301491 10/20/2014 12:34 AM
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Thanks guys
This is best I can do

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stingray #301492 10/20/2014 12:40 AM
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This is with digital microscope

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stingray #301526 10/21/2014 12:12 PM
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I have already checked the engraving (post #301476) before I have done my statement. The additional pics are good and strengthen my opinion. The engraving for sure was NOT done yesterday (e.g. see "1" - a small damage) but imho rust as it occurs on the pommel would have damaged the edges of the engraving on many places. Which he does not as there are straight, sharp edges, see e.g. "2" and "3".
An in Hand inspection would be much better as judging it only from pics and the engraving si not easy to be judged because of the additional blackening (which does look to me pretty recent and looks like laquer) but all is my personal opinion due to what I can see in the pics.
Regards,

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wotan, gd.c-b#105

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wotan #301529 10/21/2014 03:01 PM
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If rust pitting intrudes into the engraving that is a very good sign. Can you see any rust pitting inside (in the bottom) of the engraving?


"You can't please everyone, so you've got to please yourself." Ricky Nelson
ORPO #301546 10/22/2014 02:21 AM
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Thanks guys
Here are more shots

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stingray #301570 10/22/2014 10:12 PM
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stingray, thank you for the additional pics. In These extremely detailed pics you can see a lot of wearing/Age traces on the pommel But the edges of the engraving is sharp without any harm. For me -from these pics- a not period done engraving.
Regards,


wotan, gd.c-b#105

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wotan #301571 10/22/2014 10:35 PM
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Thank you guys,I really appreciate.
I going to return the sword in few days.


Regards
Stingray

stingray #301605 10/23/2014 09:47 PM
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Very likely a wise decision IMO. Being in agreement with Wotan that the pommel engraving does not in my own estimation appear to be consistent with a period done item. Best Regards, Fred


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