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HJ Import?

SCHNEIDTEUFEL SOLINGEN-GERMANY

Indeed, these blades are not considered period.

Best regards,

Herman

Thank you Herman, that is what troubles me. Everything about this knife says it is of the period except the trademark. It had to have been put together soon after the war or could it have been made for export?

Made for export????? May1/1945 and before?? lol
Modern made blade, maybe period sheath but that means only someone had an old one and stuck this modern knife/dagger in it.
Of course anything made in post war up to modern Germany and sent out of country is an export

Why would you think it is a modern made blade? I've had many HJ knives over the years and everything about this one says it's old except the trademark.

The consensus of opinion here is that edged weapons marked "Germany" were manufactured post WWII. i know of no proven exceptions.

The possibility of a pre-May 1945 HJ knife being exported, complete with swastika emblem, begs the question 'to where?'

Did this company hold a contract to produce HJ knives during the period?

Hey Dave, how about all the Germans living in the US?

US Customs is going to allow HJ daggers with a swaz into the US before may 1945???

You need to buy a better brand of beer or bourbon . No insult intended, Bama, but you got a postwar dagger with maybe a real scabbard. Take it to a show and see.

Dave

I think all the shows are full of closed minded experts just like most of the forums. Was the swastika banned in the US before the war? What about the 45 Inf. Div..

Oh, and I only drink moonshine...

I don't know for sure about the date from which German imports to the US had to be marked "Germany". But, pre-war imports from Germany to the British Empire were so marked - a form of trade protectionism. I can remember household items and toys being so marked, back from when I was a child in the WWII period.
I have read of a US student, touring Germany in the 1930's who purchased an HJ knife from a retail outlet without hindrance, was later challenged by HJ members for wearing the knife - but allowed to keep it. Many tourists were enthusiastic about their visits to pre-war Nazi Germany, a swastika emblasoned knife would have made a prized souvenir.
As for the supposed pre-war stigma of the swastika; an ancient good luck symbol. Before and during WWII my grandmother had a brass trivet with a prominent swastika design, it stood in her kitchen hearth.
The subject knife may either be a legitimate pre/post-war import to the US, or has been said - probably just a post war messed with parts creation.

COUNTRY NAME: The U. S. Tariff Act of 1890 requires manufactured goods imported to the United States in or after 1891 to be permanently marked with the name of the country of origin. Virtually every knife marked with the name of a country was made after 1890.

But an individual picking up a souvenir wouldn't have to abide by export laws, but companies shipping considerable quantities to other countries certainly would.

Thanks all. To be honest I do believe this knife was probably made post war but that’s only because of what’s been drilled into my head over the years. How many other gospels in this hobby have been proven wrong over the years? One thing I do know for sure is that this knife is indistinguishable from a wartime example except for the trademark.

..and that is why they fool so many. Most of the post war knives were a) made from original parts or b)left over stock or combinations thereof.