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#293698 01/12/2014 02:39 AM
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Here is the new piece in my collection.
Can anyone identify from which period comes from?
Is from Imperial or Third Reich period.
Note the Pack maker mark is the early one PO&Co , but grip is gilted aluminum.


Thanks
Stingray

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stingray #293744 01/13/2014 01:19 AM
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Maybe an export model?

mrfabulous #293750 01/13/2014 03:31 PM
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I don't know the model number either but I would say it is a Weimar or early NS Zeit Cavalry Officer sword.


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Also of note very few Nazi era Lionhead swords have the smaller Lionhead on the quillion.

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Thanks guys
But what about the aluminum guard?
I thought that they used brass only during the WW1 period.

Regards

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Originally Posted By: stingray
Thanks guys
But what about the aluminum guard?
I thought that they used brass only during the WW1 period.

Regards


Yes, they mostly used brass and steel guards during WWI. This is why we are saying it is probably not Imperial but a later sword from the time of the Weimar Republic or Nazi era.


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I believe PO & Co were taken over by Ernst Pack in 1923, so unless it has been re-hilted which I somehow doubt this piece must be before then, probably early Weimar?

Gary

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Here is a Weimar era Weyersburg sword for comparison. In general it is similar except for the grip material.

This is nto aluminum, rather gilded brass.

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Jim W #293822 01/15/2014 07:51 PM
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Looking at the FW Holler 1941 catalogue, there are several swords offered with the identical configuration of the Pack first presented here. These are without the swastika.

Would Pack have offered the same thing in 1941 or prior??

Jim W #293832 01/15/2014 11:35 PM
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Thanks guys and nice sword Jim smile

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