UBB.threads Forums Edged Weapons Edged Weapons Accoutrements Forum Tying a Portepee on an Army Dagger

Hello, I recently joined the forum, and have a question that may be fairly basic. I have an F. W. Holler army dagger with hanger, but was missing the portepee. I just purchased an army portepee, and need some guidance on attaching it correctly. Any suggestions?

By the way, I just started collecting, and am very impressed with this site....the support seems to be outstanding.

Hello solstice,
first let me welcome to the Forum.
Sorry for delay in answering, but I had to look for the certain references.
Credit to Thomas M Johnson with his "Collecting..." series, Vol IV.
Regards,

Thanks, Wotan,

This is awesome, this is exactly what I was hoping for. Very grateful for the research. I'm in the process of purchasing the volumes by LTC Johnson of "Edged weapons of the third reich", which should really help my knowledge base. But this site is a great resource....tapping you folks' knowledge is ideal.

Randy

Glad I could help.
Regards,

I just put a portepee on my army dagger and it took me over an hour to get it just right. I hope i'm not the only one who struggled with this lol. I loosened the top part near the pommel which finally allowed me to get it right !

If you take 1 hour to place the heer portepee, you'll take 1 year to place the Kriegsmarine portepee

This is my general procedure for a Kriegsmarine tie but also applies to Heer as they are easier. The key is to tie the portepee in reverse and be patient. In other words start at the cross guard and end at the pommel. Keep the acorn tight up against the cross guard when you start so that you maximize the amount of cord available to tie the cross guard knot and loop at the pommel. Tie the cross guard knot in reverse. Next remove the pommel. You will need to made an inside loop of the cord and slide it over the uppermost part of the grip. Replace the pommel and slide the inside loop up over the base of the now seated pommel. Then work your way down starting at the pommel loop taking out the slack and tightening the knot as you go. This will give you a firmly set in place knot with the slack taken out so that the acorn swings freely. This is particularly necessary on navy blades. Take your time. I can do a Kriegsmarine knot in about 15 minutes. An army in 5. Its just practice but I have never found it to be much fun. It is frustrating your first few times. The illustrations provided above are an excellent reference. Good luck.

Good afternoon !

Thank you for this informations, this is very interesting ...

Question : What does this 02 types & dates mean ? That onlu the first was validated from 1935 and the second one was give the OK from 1942 ?

THank you

Briac

PS : I gave up the Kriegsmarine knot ... truely sailor's stuff !